In the course of reporting "Hornswoggled,"
this week's feature story about the con man Bill Jakob
obtained a transcription of a sworn deposition that Jakob gave earlier this year as part of a $7.25 million civil rights lawsuit pending in U.S. District Court.
Federal investigators warned RFT
that everything Bill Jakob says should be taken with a shovel of salt.
Rather than quote from the transcript in the story, we thought it a propos
to provide the uncut deposition here, for your entertainment.Michael J. Holland, Heather A. Holland, et. al. vs. City of Gerald, Missouri, et. al, Bill Jakob
Deposition (Download - 3.6 MB
Read the whole thing, linked above, or take the jump to find a friendly index to some of the more interesting excerpts...
FROM PAGE 6: St. Louis Attorney Bob Herman asks Jakob why he reported a fraudulent sale of locks to the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers while employed with the company Total Lock. Jakob responds: "There was no intent beyond me telling the -- my employer, Total Lock, that, hey, I'm actually doing something other than sitting here behind this desk, I just went and made this big sale, I'll work on another one next week."
FROM PAGE 7: Herman asks Jakob why he left his job at the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis. Says Jakob: "Most boring job I ever had in my life." (According to federal law enforcement officials, the feds fired Jakob during the background check.)
FROM PAGE 10: Herman asks Jakob about his early encounters with Gerald police chief Ryan McCrary, a former security contractor in Afghanistan. Jakob replies, "One of the issues I was having with getting even information on overseas work was there was no way I was going to be able to do that. I had been out of law enforcement for too long. We talked a little bit and I asked him if there was any reference type things or, you know, basically, the good old boy network where if you know somebody, you can get around some of that and still get, you know, a job over there and he said there was and that he would be willing to make a recommendation for me if I needed one, you know, I seemed like an okay guy and it wasn't a big deal and asked me what I was doing in my off time and I told him not a whole lot. He asked if I would be willing to do him a favor."
FROM PAGE 11 AND PAGE 12: Herman asks Jakob what his surveillance for McCrary consisted of. "I had gone to the bar a few times," responds Jakob. "Noticed his car sitting out front of the police station one day when I left. Swung in there to talk to him. Went into his office. Sat down. Told him, 'Hey, as of yet, I have yet to see any of these [drug suspects you showed me pictures of] come into the bar. Of course, I'm here at three o'clock in the afternoon.' That was about it. Not a whole lot else there. He said -- He asked me if I could start coming back maybe in the evening if I wanted to come back at night. A little bit after that Lieutenant Ramsey called. He was working the street that day, said that they -- I took from the conversation that they saw somebody they were getting ready to stop. They had a reason to stop somebody. They talked for a little bit. McCrary asked me if I would do him another favor. I said, 'Sure.' He goes, 'Well, since you kind of smell like beer anyway, do you mind if -- will you sit -- We're going to bring a guy in and he just flat will not talk to us. Can we handcuff you to one end of the bench. We'll sit him on the other end of the bench, handcuff him to it and just see if he talks to you. Just be friendly and see if he talks to you,' and my answer to that was, 'Sure, as long as, you know, you come back and unlock the cuff when we're done. Don't leave me sitting there half the night because it's not going to be funny,' and that was, basically, it."
FROM PAGE 13: Herman asks Jakob how he described his law enforcement training to McCrary. Says Jakob: "I had mentioned Kinloch. He asked about Kinloch. I told him that, you know, that was just one of those places that it was better not to be around too long." Says Herman: "Why is that?" Says Jakob: "It was Kinloch. I mean, everybody was being indicted. Everybody was going to jail. St. Louis County cop [sic] came to back us up one day and asked me what I was doing there. I told him, you know, 'Hey, it's my job.' He says, 'Yeah. You like being a cop?' I said, 'Yeah.' He goes, 'Don't be one here too long or you'll never be one again,' so I packed up and went somewhere else." (According to investigators, the Kinloch police department fired Jakob for improper use of force.)
FROM PAGE 15: Herman asks Jakob why he went to assist the Gerald P.D. with a number of arrests, beginning with Tyson Williams and Michael Holland, on April 24, 2008. Says Jakob: "Sounded like a hell of a lot of fun, to be honest with you."
FROM PAGE 17: Herman asks Jakob about his role in questioning suspects, i.e., if McCrary or any other officer told him to be "mean." Replies Jakob: "It's just what you do. I mean, I had been in rooms with suspects before. It's better to look like a hard ass than a Girl Scout, so that's just what I did."
FROM PAGE 18: Herman asks Jakob what happened the next day, April 25, 2008. Says Jakob: "When I got to the police station, [McCrary] pulled me to the side and he said, 'Man we're in a -- we're in a huge bucket of shit. We ran out of room with everybody that was in here the other night and later on Shannon picked up a kid for vandalizing the school. We had nowhere else to put him. We left him unsecured and he stole a bag of pot out of my office. What the hell do I do with this? What do you think?'" ... "I said, 'That's the stupidest fucking thing I ever heard in my life. You're right, you're in a huge bucket of shit. If it was me -- ' He says, 'What do we charge this kid with?' I said, 'If it was me, I wouldn't charge him with shit.' I said, 'I would take him. I would scare the living piss out of him and I'd just chalk it up to that was some stupid shit that happened and there ain't no way in hell I'd go to a prosecutor and say, hey, that kid stole my pot.'"
FROM PAGE 20: On page 20, Jakob recounts how he and the Gerald PD find a Hello Kitty lunch pail full of weed in Michael Holland's car.
FROM PAGE 22: On page 22, Jakob describes how he and the Gerald PD roll up to the Rott family's mobile home (which is outside the Gerald city limits) and one of the family members comes out with "buckets" of marijuana and drug paraphernalia.
FROM PAGE 24: On page 24, Jakob speaks of searching the Holland family's home and finding marijuana under the couch cushion and scales hanging from a mounted deer head's horns.
FROM PAGE 26: Herman asks what happened when Jakob and the Gerald PD went into the home of the Hollands' neighbor, Betty Jarvis: "She tells us that there is marijuana in a drawer in a end table next to the couch. Ramsey says, 'Well, you know, I have to have that. You just told me it was in there,' and she said, 'Yeah. Come on in and get it.' So we walked into the house. She told us where it was. Gave it to us. She was placed into custody by Lieutenant Ramsey at that point and led outside. We all followed her outside. Asked if there was anything else in the house. She said, 'No. That was all I had. You can look if you want to.' Myself and Chief McCrary walked through the house. He called me back to a back bedroom and said, 'What do you make of this?' And I told him, 'I don't know. I've never quite seen anything like it.' It was a large collection of pornography, several hundred books and videos and a shoebox full of condoms, along with several different types of lube. He says, do you think she's -- I can't remember exactly how he said it, but he alluded to, do I think she's engaged in prostitution. I said, 'Either that or she's the friendliest girl in town.'"
FROM PAGE 33: On page 33, Jakob describes what he did with his fake badge after the gig was up.
FROM PAGE 37: On page 37, Herman confronts Jakob about his military service. "You never served in Iraq, did you?" And Jakob responds, "I'm not even going that direction, sir." When pressed further, Jakob continues to refuse to answer the questions. (According to the Department of Defense, Jakob never served a single tour in Iraq.)
Jakob gave the deposition under oath.