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Glad to see more restrictions on cigs... no point to them anyways. And to Ariel.. research shows kids have been found more likely to start smoking scented cigs. I imagine you fit into this category. What a shame.

this is absolutely absurd. i am not a clove smoker, but this would be akin to taking 'lighter' alcoholic beverages off the market--say, for instance, mike's hard lemonade.

in ten years it seems with the way things are going cigarettes will be illegal and pot will be everywhere. government, quit trying to fucking babysit us! adults will learn to make their OWN choices, and it is their responsibility whatever the consequences may be.

also, i like my menthol cigarettes, so lay off.

"Glad to see more restrictions on cigs... no point to them anyways."
This isn't about you seeing the point to something, it's about the freedom to choose for yourself. Only as long as non-smokers are not exposed to the harmful effects of smoking in public. Do you really feel you should be able to control what others choose to do in the privacy of their own homes?

"And to Ariel.. research shows kids have been found more likely to start smoking scented cigs."
This is largely irrelivant as it's illegal for children to smoke in America already.

"I imagine you fit into this category. What a shame."
You seem to think society should bend to your current perception of whats best for people to do. What a shame.

Also, I've never smoked.

I'm one of the many who started smoking at a young age.. 14 years old. I'm now 25, smoking 1-1.5 packs per day. What cigarettes have I smoked the most by far? Back when I first started, it was Marlboro 'Reds', Mediums, and anything I could get. I was soon on Marlboro Lights for some reason, and stayed that way for years. Then I quickly realized how bad Marlboro Lights tasted when trying other brands (they seemed to have a plastic/chemical-like aftertaste compared to others). After that, I smoked Camel Turkish Golds almost non-stop, until recently. Marlboro Mediums have had the $1 off a pack a lot over the last several months, and they still seem slightly cheaper than the Camel Turkish Golds without it. So, I started at 14, have smoked for 11 years, and during this time, I've tried pretty much every cigarette out there (among other things). And not once have I ever cared to smoke "flavored" cigarettes on a regular basis. However, if I did, I'd definitely be raising hell right now, that's for sure.

Exercise your right to smoke! =
http://www.filthyrichmond.com/2008/06/exercise-your-right-to-smoke.html

Sad that the government feels the need to regulate peoples choices to harm themselves. Worse still is we let them.

Who cares if people want to smoke. We are adults, by know we all know the risks or have enough information to make up our own minds.

Great, the FDA is USELESS as it is now they get to regulate a business they know nothing about? ROTFL, what a joke! and I am a non smoker!

RT
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I'm very split on the FDA on smoking. I believe that it would be great if we could end smoking. As a smoker, I always wished I never started and I am sure millions are in the same boat. At the same time I do feel we have the right to purchase what we wish and to smoke in our own homes. We get rid of one problem and millions of more pop up. People will always find ways to smoke, but it will be interesting to see if smoking is still huge in a generation or two. I think we should be more worried about obesity then smoking, but that is my opinion.

As for marijuana, it will be a long time before it is legalized, if it is ever. I don't see our government changing their views anytime soon. There still seems to be a lot of disagreement about if marijuana. A shame, but as others have said, if people want it, they will find a way to get it.

It does not matter. Djarum has already found a way around it. They just introduced the new "Djarum Cigar" It is in new packaging, but the same product (formally Djarum Blacks) They will be located in with the Cigars now at your local tobacco shop. Nice move Djarum.

Right the cigar paper, so now the flavor changes and if you read above they're going to look into that as well. So pretty much they didn't ban flavored tobacco they banned flavored paper..hah
Obama is a c0ck$ucker and a hypocrite

Agree with Cameron... no point to cigs anyway. I do, however, also agree that we should be free to make our own choices. That doesn't stop the fact that cigarettes are a gross habit that lead to the deaths of hundreds of thousands every year. Therefore, I'm in favor of anything that can be done to stem the tide of kids starting smoking in the first place. Whether it actually makes an impact on first smokers or not, it hurts big Tobacco and I'm fine with that. People who are already smokers, go smoke, I don't care. You wouldn't listen to someone who doesn't smoke anyway. It's called an addiction for a reason.

Let's ban Lager's and only allow ales to be sold. This is how stupid this is.
No chocolate bars with peanuts or crispped rice, only milk chocolate. etc etc etc..ridiculous..really.

I had a friend in the states who just returned talking about this up and coming ban. It's like banning sourpuss or baileys' because it's alcohol that kids might like and get hooked on. Kids don't smoke because it tastes good. They smoke because it relieves anxiety and stress, just like everyone else.

I have a better solution though than trying to ban a specific type of cigarette like this. Make buying cigs for minors an offense punishable by a maximum of 1 year in prison. That'll have a much better effect on underage smoking.

y'all are totally missing the point. yeah, we're all adults here, but there are still people in America who don't know the full story about cigarettes. Sure, they know they're "bad" but they don't know that smoking in the home with an infant around can cause Sudden Infant Death Syndrome. They don't know that cigarette smoke causes migraines. Tobacco products are marketed to the uneducated and disadvantaged. The people who can least afford it are most likely to smoke, and the least likely to have health insurance. And OUR tax dollars are going to pay to fix the damage done by tobacco and secondhand smoke in these populations.

DJ Arum--Phillip Morris is the only corp backing it because they're smart enough to know that regulation is coming and they might as well cooperate while cigarettes are still legal.

The bottom line is that cigarettes will kill you, and while I won't argue that for a lot of people it's an informed decision to smoke themselves to death, but for many more people it's an addiction that they despise but can't get away from. That's how it was for me when I was smoking 2 to 3 packs a day. This is about protecting the public good, because while YOU are educated and consciously make a choice, you're also (hopefully) not the one who will be driving up our taxes with your mesotheliomas and chronic obstructive pulmonary disorders and mouth cancers and quadruple bypasses. There's something called the public good at stake here.

ediesedgwick: You make perfect sense, valid points and thats all fine and dandy. But you are missing the point. The point being is that they are singling out one type, a nich cigarette and not any others, not cigars, not hookahs. Would I still be making a stink if I didn't smoke cloves and ONLY cloves; yes.Why? Because this is unfair and insane and impractical. This will create a black market and already has actually. I doubt it would get to the point of alcohol [prohibition type because again its a small percentage of us who smoke cloves. We are in the minority not in hte majority. Cloves are not a gateway cig. Newports, Kents, Marlboros, camels..are your gateways.
So that's why you see the anger, the discontent over all this because this nich group is being singled out unfairly. If they want progress I have an idea, ban the whole goddamn thing, ALL tobacco and related products. No chews no smokes cigs or cigars etc etc. Ban the whole lot then Mr. Obama you'll have a change...but you'll have millions of pissed off, cranky and anxious mofos that want to tell you how they feel...
Ban, as an experiment, menthols and watch compton riot

This is terrible, I recently quit smoking because I'm pregnant, but my lovely hubby still smokes. The highlight of our Christmas days was to sit back and enjoy the taste and smell of the clove cigs while enjoying each others company while we get a torrent of snow. Clove cigs are a luxury smoke, not a gateway for kids. I hadn't even seen a clove cig before I was even 18, but that's when I started smoking (legally of course) I didn't smoke this flavored stuff that they want to ban, I smoked what my dad did: Marlboro Red 100's. I'm going to miss my cloves and do what I can to find them for my hubby. I already knew what was going to happen when they started this ban, there was going to be a lot more underground sale of cigs, cartons of well known brands and most likely home brewed Cloves. Eventually, they're going to piss the wrong people off and as it looks its going to be the smokers. I think they should take a step back and think about what they're doing.

Make a stand people, this isn't going to stop. I want my future child to know what you people did for our freedom to choose what we smoke. And by god I want them to have a choice too. Do it. Stand up, get angry! Do something so they know that we're not going to take this sitting down!

This banning of Clove cigs. is absurd. I don't understand how the FDA is saying that flavored cigs. FIrst of all, cloves are expensive to buy. I don't see a minor wanting to chip about $7 to an adult for a pack of them. I am a responsible adult who has enjoyed cloves for years. The banning is taking my right away to smoke what I would like. I pay my taxes on the cloves, so what's the problem? The FDA should not be reugulating this. If the parents don't like their kids smoking whatever they are, then the parents should do something..NOT THE GOVERNMENT!!!

Thankfully I stocked up before the ban. But now the FDA is trying to take the new clove cigars off the market. Whats next, flavored alcohol will now be regulated? I just don't understand why the FDA has to ban the flavored cigs. all because it attracts minors. Minors can't even but tobacco products. THe ban is ridulcuous, its ignortant, and absurb. It is taking my rights away and its not right.

This banning of Clove cigs. is absurd. I don't understand how the FDA is saying that flavored cigs. FIrst of all, cloves are expensive to buy. I don't see a minor wanting to chip about $7 to an adult for a pack of them. I am a responsible adult who has enjoyed cloves for years. The banning is taking my right away to smoke what I would like. I pay my taxes on the cloves, so what's the problem? The FDA should not be reugulating this. If the parents don't like their kids smoking whatever they are, then the parents should do something..NOT THE GOVERNMENT!!!

Thankfully I stocked up before the ban. But now the FDA is trying to take the new clove cigars off the market. Whats next, flavored alcohol will now be regulated? I just don't understand why the FDA has to ban the flavored cigs. all because it attracts minors. Minors can't even but tobacco products. THe ban is ridulcuous, its ignortant, and absurb. It is taking my rights away and its not right.

Yep: We're all working on securing supplies. Even if we have to get it from canada or directly from indonesia..

actually a friend told me of a website that they still have Djarum blacks available..My prefered smoke though the Djarum Specials are not available and out of stock...I'll key in the website as soon as I get it....

Be content in your humanity, comfortable enough to enjoy its perfect imperfections, even its decadence. While the illusion of Utopia offers now the erasure of flavored smoke in exchange for our freedom and right to choose it. Be aware. It is the continual robbery of such small choices that will prove to be more invasive to our children's liberty than any scented vapor could be to their health. For it is better to be liberated with human flaw than to become a perfect slave.

Tried once, removed URL. clovecigarettesstore. Arrived this evening

Well I agree with the ban, as a fellow smoker it is one of the hardest habits I am trying to break I have tried $230 dollar medicine and cheap over the counter medicine to and nothing has been working, i have tried working out, walking and even eating more and still look for that cig. I have never been addicted to anything but yet when it comes to a cig i find my release in stress, worries, hunger sometimes, and after relaxing. It is a nasty habit and I wish I could find a way to quit that didnt cost me a fortune.

I've smoked Clove cigarettes for over 8 years now because they taste better to me and are smoother than a regular cig. I smoked like 4/6 cigs a day. I enjoyed them, their taste and the cool momentary high I got. At over $7.00 a pack, I don't see how kids would be attracted to them. I'm 41 and could still barely afford them. I always felt like it was way better to smoke a clove cigarette over a regular cig. I sure will miss them.

I am not a bad person, I just have a bad habit of smoking, I do not smoke around my kids or in the car(my car is smoke free), I just smoke only at my back yard, People do a lot more horrible things than smoke. Becouse I smoke it doesn't make me a horrible person, I do not feel high when I smoke. I still able to drive a car. I just love my time with Clove cigs!(Regular cigs give me a headache...) I'm not deprssed so I don't need Meds. I play tennis everyday for at least 2 hours! I am a happy person. This is so sad.

withdrawls already.... off to mexico i go to get my fix on cloves...good job Obama! lets continue to give other countries our money..

is it still legal to import clove cigarettes for personal consumption in the US?

Kicking the habit of smoking is not easy for everyone. There are other alternatives to make it gradually work. But some of them if they prefer not to quit, they give you the same satisfaction you get but less the disadvantages you get from a traditional cigars.

The world is changing it's attitude towrds smoking every day. To me it is a good thing. But for those that are hooked on cigarettes why not try an electronic cigarette? It has worked for thousands of smokers... no more bad breath or smell and you can smoke them anywhere! http://bit.ly/27Qt67