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Puppy Mill Repeal: Senate Bill 113 Allows Feces-Filled Water

Categories: Animals, Politics
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Jennifer Silverberg
A Senate bill would bring major changes to the Humane Society-backed initiative approved by voters in November.

Missouri Senate Bill 113, the effort to undo the voter-approved crackdown on dog breeders, Prop B, is widely expected to pass the Senate today. (It was approved by voice vote yesterday.) So what exactly does that mean?

Mostly, it means we need to wait and see what happens in the House. But here are the key components of SB 113 -- and how they differ from what voters approved in November.

The name is different. SB 113 pointedly refuses to call the state's dog breeding businesses "puppy mills," a term they find pejorative. (Last year, the breeders even filed a lawsuit trying to kick Prop B off the ballot, saying the bill's title, "The Puppy Mill Cruelty Prevention Act," was prejudicial.) The new legislation is called The Canine Cruelty Prevention Act; in the text of the bill, the pups are referred to as "dogs bred in large operations" as opposed to "dog in puppy mills."

SB 113 would remove Prop B's 50-dog limit. The initiative approved by voters strictly limited dog breeders to 50 dogs or fewer. The Senate bill places no limit on how many dogs a breeder can possess.

SB 113 would remove restrictions on how often a dog could breed.
Prop B limited all dogs -- male and female -- to breeding no more than twice in an 18-month period. (We're assuming the inclusion of males had been a mistake, since breeding doesn't take nearly the toll on males as it does on bitches. Sigh.) SB 113 removes all restrictions on male dogs and leaves a female's breeding frequency up to "what is recommended by a licensed veterinarian as appropriate for the species, age, and health of the dog."

SB 113 would increase the fees paid by breeders. Instead of $500 a year, breeders would pay $2,500 per year, plus $25 to fund Operation Bark Alert, the program that cracks down on their unlicensed counterparts.

SB 113 would take away the requirement that each dog be examined by a veterinarian annually.
Instead, it mandates that dogs get a "visual inspection" twice per year -- which we presume means that a vet could visit and quickly survey a breeder's dogs instead of examining each one.

SB 113 would remove the requirement that dogs get "unfettered access" an exercise area outdoors. Instead, the dog would get "the type and amount of exercise sufficient to comply with an exercise plan that has been approved by a licensed veterinarian...and where such plan affords the dog maximum opportunity for outdoor exercise as weather permits."

SB 113 would strip the requirement that dogs get continual water. Instead, breeders would be required to give the dog water every eight hours. Also, while Prop B mandated that the water be "free of debris, feces, algae, and other contaminants," the Senate bill removes that provision entirely. (Bring on the feces!)

SB 113 removes the requirement that the dog's living space be cleaned of waste at least once a day. Again, bring on the feces.

SB 113 removes the requirement that dogs have enough space to lie down and fully extend their limbs, plus a foot of headroom on top. The Senate bill also removes the requirement that each dog be given at least twelve square feet of space. It stipulates only that dogs must be given "appropriate space depending on the species of the animal, as specified in regulations by the Missouri department of agriculture, as revised."

SB 113 removes the threat of a class C misdemeanor for any breeder in violation of the requirements. Instead, breeders would face criminal charges only if they're found in repeated violation -- or in violation of an "agreed-to" remedial order. It would also add fines of up to $1,000.

SB 113 adds a provision requiring "an impervious barrier" between stacked cages.
By requiring that dogs be given twelve square feet, however, with a solid floor, Prop B would have essentially outlawed stacked cages entirely.



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192 comments
Mep491955
Mep491955

The facts, only the facts....We euthanize over THREE million adoptable dogs annually..Who is their right mind would want to bring more dogs into the world, when we cannot take care of the ones already here??It all comes down to greed and money..if breeders did not make money , they certainly would not be breeding dogs...It actually is pathetic that these people can only make money by having dogs mate.Don't they have ANY other skills than to put a male and a female dog together?Isn't there any other way that these people can bring in money????

Librarylady
Librarylady

As a new person to the page reading comments I do wonder at the lack of politeness and fairness and especially, facts. "Daisy" seems to have a pottymouth, calling anyone who doesn't agree with her names, rather than adressing their arguments with facts. I wonder what she will call me?Those who do not believe the conditions at these facilities should go to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... and http://crasstalk.com/2011/03/w... and other sites. Most are not posted by the HSUS. It should also be noted that there are clear and constant horror stories about puppies bought from pet shops dying, diseased and with genetic problems. http://crasstalk.com/2011/04/p...It is also clear that legislators were paid for their votes to overturn Prop B or didn't even read the Bill see this sitehttp://www.stltoday.com/suburb... A lot of mis-information is being spread about what each bills actually says, with most people not reading either.It also seems a shame that most are forgetting the link between abuse of animals and abuse of other weak creatures, children and women. Being able to treat animals like that seems to mandate treatment of children in the same way.

“Animal abuse is one of the four indicators that the F.B.I. profilers use to asses future violent behavior, so I don’t see why we should not use it too,” said Diana S. Urban, a Democratic state representative in Connecticut who sponsored a bill mandating that animal control workers and child welfare workers cross-report suspected animal, child or domestic abuse. Frank R. Ascione, a professor at the University of Denver Graduate School of Social Work who has extensively studied the topic, said, “The research is pretty clear that there are connections between animal abuse and domestic violence and child abuse.” One study found that in 88 percent of homes where children were physically abused, pets were mistreated too. A 2007 study found that women abused by their intimate partner were 10 times more likely to report that their partner had hurt or killed one or more of their pets than women who were not abused. Professor Ascione, who also advises law enforcement officials in abuse cases, said that cross-reporting requirements helped foster early intervention. In several recent cases, he said, children hinted at animal abuse to teachers who alerted animal protection agencies. Those workers spotted warning signs of other types of abuse, and child welfare workers intervened only to find that the children themselves were being abused. “Often children are not willing to talk about what is happening to them, but they will talk about their concerns about what they are seeing done to their pets,” Professor Ascione said. source http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03...

With some many dogs waiting for good homes in animal shelters, some of them pet store dogs bought on a whim and later abandoned because they are no longer fashionable, I do wonder why some many dogs need to be bred. I forget the exact figure I think about 500,000 dogs are killed at shelters every year.

Money and politics seem to overide commonsense and humanity.

erin
erin

Have I stumbled over to the comments on the Post-Dispatch by accident? One person, going through and misusing caps and liking their own comments, and a hundred people feeding the troll.

Seriously, though, who can argue for puppy mills? Really.

Terry Ward
Terry Ward

Rooster1732 now has SHELTERS in his crosshairs.

This is how LOW the puppymillers have sunk?

Attacking shelters and rescues?

Slime slime slime.

Rooster1732
Rooster1732

You spoke of the "will of the people". this issue failed in over 100 counties in Missouri. This issue passed by less than 1% of the vote. I hardly call that the will of the people. It was more like the will of St louis. As for me, I'm tired of city people trying to force thier will on me and my family. If you think that kennel raised dogs are bad don't buy them. While you are at it don't buy "farm raised" or "rescue " dogs. The rescue game is the biggest fraud out there. The rescue people purchase thier dogs from breeders. They really dont rescue them. They are just a discount seller for surplus animals. They make more money than the legitimate pet shops do, with none of the overhead. Only in America could you seperate suckers like you from your money and make you beg for them to take it. The real problem here is that urban people are so far removed from rural America that they are unable to understand the realities of how any thing is produced. I guess they think that puppies come from somewhere like a Disney Movie. No it's not like Lady and the Tramp. If it was you would not have a pet. That dog would cost $10,000.00 because market pressures would dictate it. A recent poll of urban dwellers found that when asked, many of them believed that beef came from the"supermarket". Maybe it's time that those of us in rural America made city dwellers learn where the food they eat, the clothes they wear, and yes, the family pet comes from. I have mentioned to dog breeder friends of mine that they should band together and never sell another dog in St louis, St Charles Or Jackson County again. Hey, after all it is what you voted for.

Terry Ward
Terry Ward

The Mo Senate has insured their collective political future by stomping on the backs of dogs. And filled their political coffers with puppy Blood-Money. And consorted with anti-humane corporate lobbyists.

Daisy likes this.

Animal Advocate
Animal Advocate

Wow. It seems that people are more concerned about attacking each other than the well being of dogs/puppies. Can't fathom that but it's pretty obvious here. The laws that we have now are "not sufficient".

If you haven't seen a Puppy Mill first hand, please go visit - oh wait, they're normally tucked away so no one can hear the cries of the dogs/puppies while they're being mistreated and left without food/water and being crapped on from the many dogs in the wire stacked cages above. C'mon folks - reality check is needed. Seems like some of you don't give a dang about their suffering and that really makes me lose faith in humanity.

Animal Advocate
Animal Advocate

What SB113 does in reality is say "Screw You Voters",. You are obviously stupid and incompetent and YOUR Senator does not respect your right to vote or that would have upheld Prop B since the Majority Voted FOR Prop B. The House is expected to do the same. I'm FURIOUS. I knew what I voted for and would do it again. I read every single word in the actual Proposition and it had Nothing to do with livestock. It will be up to Governor Nixon to UPHOLD THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE. If this is not done, I will vote him out. I will also start a Boycott of Missouri Agriculture and Farmers.

Mep491955
Mep491955

It is unbelievable that these legislators are trying to tear down what the voters built up...To the voters of Missouri, remember who these legislators are and VOTE them out !!!!!

Daisy
Daisy

SB 113 removes the requirement that the dog's living space be cleaned of waste at least once a day. Again, bring on the feces.I think THIS is the line the Article is talking on.... ok. A lot of folks in ST Louis keep dogs in pens and outside runs, how many times, BY LAW, do THEY have to clean those pens?? What LOCAL laws have YOU passed to protect THOSE dogs?? NONE? Then shut up already!

Terry Ward
Terry Ward

shadowlane,we did NOT identify the kennel on our post.Dork much?

Terry Ward
Terry Ward

A we said before Mark, we did NOT put your name on our post.

Terry Ward
Terry Ward

CDavis, what % of the population believes that 'animals should have equal rights to humans'?

AmyH
AmyH

Honestly, I think it doesn't matter what laws we pass since the gov't is not given enough money to fund adequate inspections to shut down repeat violators. I'd like to think that people would do what is right for animals, but anyone who thinks they can breed dogs to make a living is not doing right by their animals. Proper breeding and housing of pedigree dogs is expensive and is done with love and care for the breed and the animals; not for the cash.

Also, I want to know what law firm Cdavis works for so that I never hire a lawyer with such a poor grasp of correct grammar and spelling.

Casinokennels
Casinokennels

It is a sad sad day when there would be one eye put on all of the breeding industry. As with anything it is totally up to the individual person to see if they have pride and respect in them selves AND their breeding program. Someone mentioned above that none of the sleezy breeders would allow photos. If you would care to come and see me I would happily five you a tour.I have bred raised and SHOWN my breed (YES I have ONE breed of dog) for almost twenty years. I have in my existing breeding program: One finished show champion. One hopefully will be show dog in training, two champion sired and two champion grandsired. My breeding stock is health tested, socialized, allowed to run both in our dog yard AND outside the fence, have pens that are a minimum of 12x16, have all manner of toys and doggie paraphernalia. They are frontlined, bathed ,toenails trimmed. Their water buckets are COLOR COORDINATED with their dog houses for gods sake!. They are vet checked and health tested.They do not jump on you, are yard broke and kennel on command.I give a two year written health and temperament guarantee on any puppies from them. In short I am super proud of my dogs AND my Kennel. take a look. www.casinokennels.webs.com. And to be perfectly honest I abhor the images and photos I see of the gross neglect and mistreatment of dogs as much if not more than ANYONE because I know how very very hard I work to have pride in MY facility. Now would you like to know why there is such a HUGE uproar? If you care to LOOK at my place and you think...oh, okay, that's a GOOD breeder because I AM a good breeder , ask my clients from the last 20 years....guess what. My kennel DID NOT meet the old act. And I cannot afford the $40,000 it would have taken to comply. Just like how clean you keep your house or how often you change your babies diaper, how you as an individual treat your elderly parents or grandparents, it is just that. The individual and their pride, their morals , in a nutshel, their soul. It is unjust and unfair to lump us all in as one because we own "xxxx amount of dogs" etc. If there were children living in filthy households , and because of that ,ALL households were subjected to extreme rules and restriction that would, in essence, prohibit everyone but the social elite from raising a family, well that would cause a pretty big ruckus. IMHO only.

MissouriDogBreeder
MissouriDogBreeder

You are soooo right! Did you read the filthy rescue that the state just pulled the license from when they wouldn't clean up their act? 150 plus dogs & cats? The rescues are given more leeway than kennels, and still can't run a decent facility. I would support a boycott of St. Louis by farmers and licensed dog breeders. Personally, I won't sell a puppy to anyone in St. Louis or KC anymore. They don't want us raising the puppies in a legal, regulated manner, let them import sick dogs, or buy rejects from rescues. City people are so ignorant about the dog business, or any other animal agriculture operation.

Terry Ward
Terry Ward

Unfortunately some of Missouri's L'il Abners are also Dems.Regarding Prop B,it seems, the poop rises to the top.

Terry Ward
Terry Ward

We would very much support a law that would protect the public from Daisy.

shadowlane
shadowlane

Should have added 'snide' witch. You tried to slander an honorable, long-time breeder who is very professional and does a fine job with his kennel. Just the latest trick on the long list of hateful attacks on good people and our good state of Missouri.I am just sick to death of you. I have read the trash and hateful ignorance that you spread daily. You need to stay on the east coast with your filthy comments. We don't want your kind in Missouri and you can quit polluting our newspaper comment sections as well.

Daisy
Daisy

Terry, you ARE OTHERWISE!! NO DOUBT! Brainwasshed and Brain dead! Still waiting for you to name off all the Kennels you've been to...

Mark A Landers
Mark A Landers

Fact: Missouri Legislators listened to the testimony of experts in Animal Science and Veterinary medicine that testified that the language of Prop B, if not modified, would result in the death of dogs.

Fact: Knowing that the language of Prop B, if left unchanged, would result in the death of dogs some of Missouri's Senators voted to leave Prop B as written.

Fact: Licensed regulated breeders have reports of violations and non-compliant items on their inspection reports.

Fact: Unlicensed unregulated breeders (like those in the Vote Yes Prop B adds) have NO violations and NO non-compliant items on their inspection reports. Because NO ONE inspects them and they do NOT have inspection reports.

Fact: I have seen comment boards full of comments by animal rights activists and pro prob b supporters (including a computer programmer that once owned a cat) expecting me to ignore the expertise of Veterinarians and Animal Science professionals.

Questions: If you have a dog (or any animal) in need of medical attention are you going to take it to an animal rights activist, any prop b supporter, a lobbyist whose expertise in in fund raising or a licensed veterinarian?

I thank our legislators that took the time to listen to the experts in Veterinary Medicine and Animal Science and correct the language in Prop B that would have resulted in the death of dogs kept in a kennel built to the specification of the language of Prop B as originally written.

Mark A. Landers

anon
anon

No one has ever accused Terry Ward of having a high IQ, lol

Cdavis
Cdavis

The facts that clinically prove that any congressman suffer a diagnosis of being deranged or or demented.

Terry Ward
Terry Ward

We have said many times in many places that we believe the responsible breeder is the MOST important factor in ridding the world of the bad actors.

But the bad actors continue to accuse us of wishing to 'get rid of all breeders".

For some unknown reason they feel this accusation supports their nefarious agenda.Our rescue group would barely exist were it not for the wonderful show breeders who save and rehabilitate far more dogs than they breed.

The point of disagreement is this:They are not in it for the money.

Mep491955
Mep491955

How sad and pathetic it must be ..to only be able to make money and provide for your family by mating dogs.....Don't you have any other skills?

Terry Ward
Terry Ward

The rescues don't hide from the public.The puppymills hide from the public.

anonymous
anonymous

right, you rednecks don't want educated people in missourah

Terry Ward
Terry Ward

Sooieee!!!! `shadowlane be hoppin' mad and turnin' purple!

shadowlane expects her enemies to cower on the ground to be crushed like helpless bugs ?Shadowlane and her posse of bullies do NOT like the taste of their own medicine!Shadowlane believes we are bugs but we will not act like bugs!

Shadowlane and her posse spend MANY hours seeking our place of abode.Does shadowlane wish to bring her posse here to the beautiful Jersey shore and crush us like bugs?

We think bullies are silly.

Terry Ward
Terry Ward

'Brainwasshed' is not a term we are familiar with.Is this a Republican expression?

Terry Ward
Terry Ward

Daisy does not believe the moon exists because she has never been to it.

Animal Advocate
Animal Advocate

Mark - what provision of Prop B would result in the death of dogs? I read it in didn't see anything such as this so I'm curious in your interpretation. I would really like to know what this refers to. Because I'm not a vet, but I know many many many vets that totally supported Prop B. And as a volunteer for several animal shelters in the St Louis area, I get the pleasure of seeing the remnants of the puppy mills - those dogs that weren't brutally killed at the Puppy Mill first but were "rescued".

Terry Ward
Terry Ward

Fact: Licensed regulated breeders have reports of violations and non-compliant items on their inspection reports. Yep, they do..

And that excuses what?.

From Feb 2011 USDA kennel inspection report:"a female Komondor had blood on her neck. Her collar was too tight causing a bleeding lesion several inches long.Inventory records are incomplete.

254 adult dogs are present but records only for 215 adult dogs.Inadequate shelter provided for a Komondor and foxhound.

Three dogs in pens large enough for one dog.This affects 6 dogs.16 dogs with inadequate bedding in outside pens.Some outdoor pens not large enough to allow animals to sit, stand turn around freely"Some dogs not protected from the sun"

Terry Ward
Terry Ward

Proof of derangement:,

' If the HSUS gets Prop B passed in Missouri, “they will come after livestock...'and shut agriculture down.' State Rep. Brian Munzlinger ..............................................

'Farmers should be protected from the radical animal rights group that want to abolish animal agriculture and control this country's food supply'. Tom Loehner

Terry Ward
Terry Ward

One, there are clowns who reject breeding altogether.

Two, as you are NOT an example of the rest of the world, this is not about you.

Three, any breeder who comes down on the side of the anti-proppers is going to be suspect.

Four, if you are a responsible breeder ( and it appears that you do have a stellar kennel) ignore the clowns.

Five, being an adult means, among other things, developing a thicker skin. To take everything personally, especially when the contention does not apply to you, is madness.

Six, ALL businesses are subject to regulations, and more regulations, and these are nearly always onerous. This is an unavoidable fact of life. No one likes them, but it is what it is.

Seven, because your business has to do with living creatures, you will ALWAYS be under scrutiny. This is another fact of life, at least in the civilized world..

Eight, the more you work to expose the bad actors in your profession, the more you will be respected, and the more your business will profit from your actions. The more you cast your lot indiscriminately with all breeders, the less you will be respected. Whether or not you care about this is entirely your affair.

Casinokennels
Casinokennels

then why if this was not directed at ME , because I am licensed, because I have blue ribbon kennel status, because yes I DO sell puppies occasionally to the public why is it that the "Puppy Mill Act" effects me and my kennel so much? Why if I choose to have 11 dogs am I lumped in with the same people who are shown on TV and the net with dogs living in deplorable conditions ? Why is there not a difference between myself and someone who has 3,000 dogs ? Why am I so much worse and have been labeled that term with conditions, mandates etc etc etc when it has no effect upon someone who has their dog chained in a backyard with no food no good shelter and running in mud up to their elbows? Why am I considered in the same class as a criminal because I proudly have a show and hobby kennel but there are people out there who have any old "pure blooded dog" and then breed it to "any other old pure blooded dog" to get a litter of puppies not know the genetic issues of the breed, the problems that can and do arise, and not knowing the first THING about breeding whelping and or raising dogs ?

I have been on websites that because I have a State of Missouri license I was listed AS A PUPPY MILL.I am behind stricter enforcement of people who break the laws, but I read articles like the above and just shake my head in sadness because---- is what people do not understand is that if that law had not been amended I would not have been able to raise my dogs. You CANNOT operate a breeding program only breeding your main stud every 18 months. You cannot have a breeding program with three dogs (which is what you would have to have to NOT be licensed). The law stated it does not effect show breeders but how could it NOT? Missouri law says three or more intact females that you sell puppies from and guess what ...you are SUPPOSED to be licensed. So if you obey the law ANYONE with more than three breeding females should have a license and abide by the law.Again , to me common sense thinking is the key. MOST people mean well. Most people HAVE common sense. I don't know HOW many times since the law was passed that people from St Louis have been to my facility and when told that it wouldn't pass the new acts specs were SHOCKED.THAT is why the law was amended. Plain and simple. I hope everyone thinks on this hard. Go in with an open mind and don't let ANY one side cloud your judgment. Use your own common sense, just remember the words "puppy mills" are one of the most misleading words in the book. Have a great weekend , now if you will excuse me I have dogs houses to paint! :)

Daisy
Daisy

Bully?? look in the Mirror you psycho!LOL!! I could add more adjectives, but I'll stop here...

Rooster1732
Rooster1732

I believe one of the problems with the prop b was the range of temps. that a dog could be kept at. Puppies need warmer temps than was allowed in the proposition. under the prop rules the puppies would be too cold and could die. Thanks for the question.

Mark A Landers
Mark A Landers

Animal Advocate,

Specifically the "unfetted access" and the temperature requirements in prop b as written.

Since you have worked in shelters you might be aware that different breeds of dogs and dogs in various life stages do not requrie the same housing.

Working dogs, puppies, non breeding adult dogs, breeding dogs (last three weeks of pregnancy and mothers nursing puppies), and senior dogs do not require the same housing nor the same level of nutrition.

Ask any veterinarian if the needs of a breeding dog and a "pet" dog are the same during all stages of their lives.

While working dogs and dogs not in the last three weeks of pregnancy or nursing puppies are fine with unfetted access to the outdoors....an expectant mother or young puppies are not.

Thank you for your questions and your work in shelters. As long as americans have the right to own dogs there will be dogs that are displaced. Death, divorce, loss of health, loss of employement, etc are a reality. When these occur there will be some dogs that will need to find new homes.

Please think about advocating for permenant identification for all dogs. One aspect of rehoming dogs is returning lost dogs to their home. Thank you for taking the time to read my posts.

Mark A. Landers

Daisy
Daisy

And what was the follow up??? Too bad you are not worried about HUMANS suffering in our Cities, as much as you are about Dogs you have never even seen.....

Daisy
Daisy

FACT! Terry is a fool.....

shadowlane
shadowlane

Terry, you are the worst kind of witch....the kind who uses innuendos and flank attacks to try to discredit people. You fit right in with Barbara Schmitz aka HSUS. She was more direct with her attack, and turns out it was a lie. You are more of the back-stabbing type.I am so fed up with your nonsense. I used to think you were just being stupid on purpose, but have changed my mind. You really do mean evil to people. You are so full of hate, you can't help yourself.

Mark A Landers
Mark A Landers

Continued...

The rest of the story including what Terry leaves out.

On Feb 8, 2011 there was three inches of ice covered in six inches of snow. The temperature was 10 degrees with a wind chill -10. This should tell you that a licensed regulated breeder can and does have unannounced inspection at any time in any weather conditions. The inspectors brave the elements regardless of weather conditions.

You seem to have left out the word "superficial" when describing the lesion on the female Komondor's neck. You will find a vet letter on record regarding the superficial lesion on her neck. Also you will find pictures taken by the inspectors on Feb 8, 2011 (during the inspection) showing her running in a large field (106) acres with another Komondor.

My Komondorok are large, but not that large (80 to 90 pounds). My runs are 8 foot by 24 foot runs. It was the opinion of the inspector that their house was not large enough for them. It was their house that the inspector did not feel was adequate for them to "sit, stand, and turn around freely" in. The house, not the kennel run, Terry.

I simply added a different house in the kennel run to meet what this inspector wanted. My Komondors are livestock guardian dogs. They run at night on 106 acres. In the pasture there is a 30 foot by 176 foot section of a barn which they can share with goats and sheep. However, they usually do not use the barn and sleep in the pasture with the goats and sheep. Two or three of them stay with the goats and sheep 24/7. The rest are turned out at night. I use the LDG's for the purpose for which they were bred. I use them to guard my sheep and goats.

And that led to another problem that took some "head scratching" for the inspectors to decide if my LGD's should even be on the kennel inventory. LGD's are not specifically addressed in the current law. Further since they were bred to be without housing 24/7 because of their heavy corded (matted) coat, the questions arose what is the correct housing when they require none and where do they fit on my inventory?

A breed that is supposed to have a matted coat. A breed that was bred not to require housing, but rather they were bred to live with their flock or herd 24/7 365 days a year.

During the record breaking cold period in Feb of 2011 my LGD's slept outside at night in the cold, ice, and snow with their flock. There only bedding was a large round bale of hay unrolled. It was their choice. They had access to the barn.

If this is wrong, then prosecute me. And while you are at it prosecute every other farmer and rancher that utilizes a breed of dog for the purpose it was bred.

If that would not be a direct attack on agriculture then tell me what would be, Terry?

Fact not all dogs require the same housing. Fact the same dog will require different housing during different stages of their life and different times of the year. My bulldogs do extremely well in cool and cold weather. They require drastically different housing during periods of heat.

Terry, why didn't you include the part of the report that reads, "The Bulldogs were not shivering and did not appear adversely affected by the temperature at the time of the inspection." After all it was one of the coldest days if not the coldest day if February.

It's on the inspection report, Terry. Why not include it?

The inspector felt the Bulldogs needed to be able to "bury" themselves in the bedding. Although I had fresh bedding for each and every dog, she thought I needed more. I use kiln dried shaving which she felt was inadequate and that I should use straw. I had the inspector take pictures of the inside of the kennels in question to show the bedding I did have in place. Kiln dried shaving is the bedding I've used for decades. I have never been written up on this before.

This is how the system works. Even though the dogs appeared fine ("not shivering and did not appear adversely effected"), I did exactly what the inspector requested and each kennel was stuffed full of straw.

I took my dog to the vet (I have a standing appointment every Wednesday with my vet), I added additional bedding, I changed the dog houses in two kennel runs, and I updated my inventory.

I do need to apologize because on an earlier comment board I had said that USDA does not consider dogs as adults on my inventory until they are one year of age. I believed it to be true at the time. I was wrong. Although for 30 plus years I have not added dogs to the inventory until they were 12 months of age this inspector indicated dogs "> 16 weeks" were required to be on my inventory. They are now on my inventory.

As a kennel operator, I will do what the inspectors ask. That is how the system works. If I don't do what they ask....I don't have a license and I can not sell my puppies.

The inspectors do come back and make sure I've done what I was told to do. Terry, that is why my last inspection reports shows that I now have no non-compliant items.

The current system works.

Terry, I have no clue where you come up with this, "Some dogs not protected from the sun". The complaint was in regards to the actual house in the daytime kennel run for the Komondorok. In their daytime run there is an 8 foot by 4 foot section that is covered by a roof. The runs always have shade. The inspection report explains that they are Livestock Guardian Dogs and how they are managed.

Not telling the whole story is what the animal rights activist do so well.

I repeat that when the inspectors came back I had done everything they asked me to do. That is why, on my last inspection report I have no non-compliant items.

Thank you for bringing this inspection report up.

This is how the current law has worked and still works.

In addition people need to realize most kennels in Missouri are already inspected by four different entities. If one inspector misses something there are three more that are going show up.

I realize I am not perfect. I realize I need inspections to assist me in making sure I meet standards.

I do not understand why unlicensed unregulted breeders are assumed to be perfect. Humans are not perfect. Please explain why anyone should be exempt form inspections.

Mark A. Landers USDA, State, Veterinary, and breed registry inspected

Terry Ward
Terry Ward

We did not, as you notice, add a name to our comment.

Mark A Landers
Mark A Landers

Good evening Terry, .

Thank you for pointing out that the current inspection procedures under the current laws still work.

Yep yep yep...we have laws that work. Inspectors write us up if we don't do things they way they think they should be done. If we do not come into compliance we lose our licenses and can not sell puppies. Since most pet shops will not buy form a breeder with ANY non-compliant items on their last inspection report puppy sales stop for us until we come into compliance.

You write "And that excuses what?"

First let me make it clear that it excuses nothing.

My inspection report does NOT excuse the actions of the Senators that voted for language in Prop B that will result in the death of dogs.

My inspection report does NOT negate the fact that the language of Prop B as written will result death of dogs.

Nor does my inspection report give you or any animal rights activist the right to manipulate information and add information to intentionally mislead the public.

Nor do I think my inspection report will change who someone takes their dog (or any animal) to the next time their dog (or any animal) needs medical attention.

Yes I had non-compliant items on my USDA inspection report on Feb 8, 2011. However you fail to post the my follow up inspection is in total compliance.

Nor do you post that the non-compliant items concerning dogs were corrected by Feb 9, 2011.

Nor do you post that the non-compliant item of record keeping was brought into compliance by Feb 15, 2011.

Mark A Landers

Cdavis
Cdavis

All good points Terry. No different than if I followed you around in a patrol car all day. I guarantee I would catch you commit several traffic violations. But just because you commit a few violations doesnt mean we need to take your car from you. Point is we have laws in place. They work. The numbers produced by HSUS even indicate that Licensed Dog breeders have a nearly perfect customer satisfaction. Please dont penalize the whole industry if one person does wrong. I wouldnt come take your drivers license if your neighbor got caught drinking and driving. Well nice debating with you but i gotta go. Have a great day.

Daisy
Daisy

That is based on HSUS's standard pratices of attack. Googole Ohio/HSUS/Chickens......or

This going after,,, FARM ANIMALS!!!!http://www.opednews.com/articl...

This going after CHICKENS!!!http://www.consumerfreedom.com...

PHOENIX — Voters sent a strong message to the Arizona Legislature on Tuesday by rejecting Proposition 109, a referendum that would have amended the Arizona Constitution to give the legislature “exclusive” authority over wildlife issues while seeking to also forbid citizens from initiating statutory petitions.

“We are grateful to the citizens of Arizona for once again rejecting an attempt by the trophy hunting lobby to block citizen initiatives to protect wildlife,” said Kari Nienstedt, Arizona state director for The Humane Society of the United States. “It’s always better to keep power in the hands of the people, and that’s just what voters did tonight by saying ‘no’ to Prop 109. This is a victory for voters and for wildlife, and a defeat for the NRA and other special interests that don’t trust the judgment of voters.”

In the LAST one, From Arizona, notice the intent of HSUS to TAKE AWAY for the CITIZENS the right to PETITION for redress of Grievances!! The HSUS is a Commie dictatorial outfit! what THEY want, is above what everyone can have! Their stand here in Arizona PROVES that OUT! There STUPID Terry, you have OPINIONS, I just gave you COLD HARD FACTS! YOu are WRONG! WE are RIGHT! Munzlinger was RIGHT, following these other states experiences with HSUS! People like YOU are DANGEROUS! You believe anything some thug tells you, or,, is it something DIFFERENT??? Are YOU one of the HSUS THUGS??? Anyway, I just proved YOU are the DERANGED one. Read the TRUTH!! You don't get it NOW, you are SCREWED in the HEAD!

Terry Ward
Terry Ward

What % of the population believes that 'animals should have equal rights to humans'?

Cdavis
Cdavis

Although that doesn't meet the definition of derangement I understand what you are trying to say. Good Points Terry, Thank You.Although, Munzlingers statement is a bit alarmist it merely mirrors the fears of the Farmers and other lawful agricultures, who are simply trying to make a living and raise their families. It is based on what has happened in California and Florida after animal rights laws passed there. It destroyed specifically targted agricultural industries, hurt the economies, destroyed peoples livelihoods and sky rocketed consumer costs. There are movements to repeal those laws and even people who voted for it originally now feel like they were tricked and duped by HSUS and animal rights. So it can happen.

Tom Loehner is referring to radical animal rights groups who say that animals should have equal rights as humans, humans should not eat meat. They would think it is horrible that my 10 yoa child would shoot and kill a cute little deer to eat, or help me butcher rabbits or chickens to eat.

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