Hazelwood Girl Scouts Lose Their Appeal

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Verboten without a permit: Girl Scout cookies
​Score one for the bureaucrats.

KMOV (Channel 4) is reporting that the judge hearing the appeal of two Hazelwood Girl Scouts hoping to sell Girl Scout cookies out of their driveway has dismissed their plea without comment.

The Girl Scouts were represented by Dave Roland, an attorney with the Freedom Center of Missouri. Roland had previously predicted that the judge in the case, St. Louis County Circuit Judge Maura McShane, appeared likely to rule against the young entrepreneurs.

"I believe this is a constitutional issue. If someone is using their driveway in a way that is completely harmless, I don't believe there's
been a crime or anything wrong going on there," Roland had told Daily RFT. "Can cities really tell kids that they're not allowed to have concession stands in their front
yards?" Apparently, according to Judge McShane, they can do just that.

Links to our previous coverage include this story about the case and this update.

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Danieljoeoconnor
Danieljoeoconnor

welcome to the New world [law and] Order. one would think homeland security would have better things to do than terrorize little girls selling cookies with out a government permit.

hotdogwaffles
hotdogwaffles

i would tell hazelwood to keep their communist asses out of my driveway. 

Elisabeth
Elisabeth

It seems to me that for Hazelwood to focus on preventing private property sales, whether it be lemonade, girl scout cookies or a garage sale (not sure if a permit is needed for a garage sale but I would argue the point if it wasn't),  is such a huge waste of time and resources.  They need to focus on the thugs and undesirables.

Lara Jane White
Lara Jane White

Hmm... I'm all about "small government" but my first instinct is that these girls are a little lazy. You just expect to sit in your driveway and let all of the business come to you? You're not going to do very well, I'm guessing. My son is a Boy Scout and we did not enjoy selling popcorn when he was a Cub, but that's part of the Scouting ethic, is it not? He's a shy kid but being a Scout means to be a good citizen (working & helping your community), be brave, be friendly, etc... you're not really going to hone those skills sitting in your front yard.

Mike
Mike

If your son is currently a Boy Scout and used to be a Cub Scout, then you probably have bigger things to worry about as it's only a matter of time before he gets bullied for being a real loser.

Peggy Keller
Peggy Keller

Except if they went out and were selling and got pulled into a house and raped and killed, there would be people complaining that they shouldn't be knocking on strangers doors. This way, whoever wants the cookies in the neighborhood can come to the central location that is very public. It's much safer to do it this way. No one has to "sell" anyone on GS cookies anymore, they know if they want to buy them or not. There are other ways to be help the community besides selling the cookies and GS do other activities besides this one.

Lara Jane White
Lara Jane White

Ooookay...? What kind of parent would LET their young child go door-to-door alone? My son is 11 and I'm not going to send him out into the neighborhood on his own!

I don't see a driveway as being "public" nor convenient, unless you live on the same street/drive past it frequently. It just doesn't seem like a very productive way to do it, though, again, I don't think the city should butt in and say they can't.

David Roland
David Roland

I'd also add that the door-to-door sales arguably require a "peddler's permit" according to the city's ordinances.  But I'm convinced that the city doesn't really care about "enforcing the law."  They made a silly decision because a neighbor complained and those in charge are simply to proud to admit the mistake.  All they have to do to make this entire issue go away is say, "We were wrong.  There's nothing wrong with kid-run concession stands in Hazelwood."  But they can't bring themselves to do that, so they're making taxpayers pay to defend this unconstitutional application of the ordinance.

Eric Vineyard
Eric Vineyard

Fair enough, but the point is, those girls should have the right to sell cookies in their driveway.  If it doesn't work out, lesson learned - time to pound the pavement.

KITTY
KITTY

Shame on Hazelwood for pursuing those girls for doing something that Ameican's all across the country have done for decades without any complaints or legal action taken against them. The Girl Scouts sell cookies door to door and even have sales tables set up at the local grocery stores. How come Hazelwood hasn't cited them for peddling their cookies without a proper permit or license? But what can one expect from a city of hoosiers and rednecks ran by idiots bent on trampling on the rights of little girls selling cookies on their own property? Vote the bastards out of office next time they are up for election.

David Roland
David Roland

Just to clarify... this is certainly not the end of the road for Caitlin and Abigail's case.  We're going to ask the judge to explain her ruling, then decide where to go from there.  If the judge does not change her mind and allow the case to proceed, we can ask the appellate court to review her determination, or we also have the option of re-filing the lawsuit.  One way or another, the girls intend to have their day in court.

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