Bill Would Require Nearly All St. Louis Dogs and Cats to Be Sterilized

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A bill under consideration in the St. Louis Board of Aldermen could make St. Louis one of the most restrictive cities in the nation when it comes to owning cats and dogs.

Board Bill 107 would require all pet owners to spay or neuter their dogs and cats and microchip them for identification. Those who don't want to sterilize their pets would be assessed a fee of $200 per year.

The sponsor of the bill, Alderwoman Lyda Krewson (Ward 28), tells Daily RFT that the goal of the bill is to encourage responsible pet ownership. Krewson worked with the city's Department of Health in drafting the legislation, which comes on heels of the city of St. Louis facing something of a stray animal crisis with the closing last year of the city's animal shelter.

"The goal of this, over time, is to cut down on the number of stray dogs and cats in the city," says Krewson. "When we take on pets, we also take on the responsibility of caring for them. We already require that pets be vaccinated for rabies and that people abide by the leash law. This is just another step in that direction of caring for our pets."

Krewson notes that most shelters require micro-chipping and spay or neutering before adopting animals out. And other cities -- including Las Vegas, Denver, Dallas, Memphis and Tulsa -- have similar laws requiring that pet owners sterilize their dogs and cats. Yet that information didn't stop what Krewson calls a "lively debate" during last Friday's board meeting when the bill was up for perfection.

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Krewson
"Some aldermen objected to the bill interfering with 'Mother Nature' and worried that neutered dogs might not be as effective guard dogs as non-neutered dogs," says Krewson. "But I know plenty of sterilized dogs that still bark when a stranger comes to the door."

The bill would also ban pet stores in the city from selling cats and dogs -- something that's not so much of an issue. The city only has one pet store, the PetsMart on South Kingshighway, which doesn't sell cats and dogs. However, the store will still be allowed to adopt out dogs and cats through its partnership with animal rescue operations.

Those who choose not to sterilize their animals would have to apply for a "hobby breeder" license with the city and pay $200 each year. Krewson justifies the expense because, ostensibly, the pet owner is making money off the sale of their pet's litter. Money raised from the hobby license and other fees (up to $50,000 each year) would be used to assist low-income residents in paying for their pets to be neutered or spayed.

Pet owners who fail to sterilize their dogs and cats and don't get a breeder's license could be subject to a $500 fine, but that's only if they don't take action within 60 days of receiving a citation.

"The point of this ordinance is to get dogs and cats spayed or neutered and not to be punitive," says Krewson, who's optimistic the bill will pass this fall after she has a one-on-one conversation with some of her concerned colleagues on the board.

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Formyk9s
Formyk9s

I have a lot of problems with this proposal.  Where will the money come from to enforce it? How many people will it taketo gohouse to house to find intact animals?  The city will lose more money because pet owners will do one of two things, 1.  quit going to their vet, to avoid being reported that will result in the vets paying less in taxes because of a loss of business, or 2.  people will take their pets to vets outside the city to avoid the reports. If owners quit going to the vets, diseases in animals will rise, think rabies!!  WE have many laws on the books that people ignore now,(think speeding, robery, murder) what makes anyone think that people will decide to obey this one,  Responsible animal owners can and do keep their intact animals from reproducing with the help of a leash, and a fence.  If this law passes ST Louis better build a very large shelterBEFORE they impliment it!!

Fraukt2
Fraukt2

Yeah. I foresee a huge number of people who don't want to spay/neuter their "pets" instead dumping them, unaltered, all over the city.

Cassi
Cassi

Not to get off topic here as much could be said about goverment assistance programs. Getting your animal spayed and nutered does affect it's growth. I am getting a puppy and would like it to reach its full height and weight as defined by the AKC. I don't know what the age requirement is but that kind of sucks. I have no problem with the law because it is devastating to think of so many poor pets put to sleep and homeless. No one in St. Louis can complain about the cost because St. Louis is one of the best places I have ever seen for spay and neuter programs. If you can't afford it contact the BARC Program. I have had 3 pets spayed and neutered without paying a cent or showing and documentation thanks to some private funding and some other grants. They also offer low price vaccination and micro chipping. Last weekend they even did free vaccinations all day saturday. Getting your dog/cat sterilized is the responsible thing to do. Even if it does mean some inconvienences on the owners part...

Doglover
Doglover

HEALTH BENEFITS OF SPAYING AND NEUTERINGSome pet owners are not aware of the advantages of spaying or neutering their pet. A spayed or neutered pet does not become fat or lazy. Their metabolism may slow down abit but all you have to do to keep that trim look is cut back a little on the food. In additionto the obvious advantage of preventing unwanted pregnancies, there are health andbehavioral benefits:1) Spaying or neutering is foolproof birth control that lasts a lifetime.2) Spaying or neutering provides relief from such hormone driven urges as:Aggression toward other dogs, particularly for males.Territorialism, that is, the tendency to be overprotective of the dog's home ground.Wanderlust, that is, the desire to escape from the yard and seek sexual adventure inthe outside world.Dominance.Marking territory with urine/feces.Unwanted sexual behavior such as riding, sniffing, licking, arousal.Frustration which occurs when the behaviors dictated by hormonal urges cause thedog to behave in a way that is undesirable to the owners.3) Protection (either partial or complete) from such hormone-induced conditions as:MALESTesticular cancerBenighn prostatic hyperplasiaAcute and chronic prostatis, prostatic abscessPerianal gland adenomasOrchitis (infection of the testicles)Venereal tumorsPerineal hernia (abdominal organs bulging out of rectum)Inguinal hernia with potential organ strangulationFEMALESBreast cancerCystic endometrial hyperplasia and pyometraFalse pregnanciesMastitis (can occur during false pregnancy)Transmissible venereal sarcomaOvarian and uterine tumorsCystic ovaries and hyperestrogenismChronic endometritisVaginal hyperplasia and prolapseUterine torsion or uterine prolapse

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Chris
Chris

Probably no one will see this comment, but seeing how shitty the vast majority of my neighbors treat their pets, any regulation would be an improvement

MrHacks
MrHacks

Well, since we are talking EUGENICS here, I propose that EVERYONE and I mean EVERYONE in Ward 28 (where Lydia Krewson dwells) undergo forced castrations, unless they are disabled, have mental disabilities, or some terrible genetic disease. (I said "EUGENICS" not "NAZI EUGENICS". I'm not a monster.)  If your reproduction doctor tells you that your kid will grow up to be a hot actress/lawyer/doctor who will throw 5000 yards in the NFL, you get to have your tubes tied. However, if your kids are destine to be Simple Jack, you are free to pollute the gene pool as much as you like.If animals can't breed as nature intended, then neither should humans! Darwin Approves of your ignorance, Mrs. Krewson.

disgusted
disgusted

Because THAT makes so much sense.

Abby Gillardi
Abby Gillardi

I've seen this problem firsthand while working at a humane society in the city. The strays in this city are a serious problem, as well as how people care for their animals. Its horrible. This is a wonderful bill and I hope it passes. Spaying/neutering animals is not harmful at all to their health, its actually better for them. It cuts the risk of certain diseases/cancer and also improves their behavior. Its unbelievable how many animals in this city go missing each day. If every one had a microchip, think how much better of a chance there would be of reuniting this animal with its owner. And if every animal was fixed, this would cut down on the number of litters born in the streets. People who think otherwise are irresponsible pet owners. 

Superbouncer
Superbouncer

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guest
guest

government should not be allowed to mandate that i neuter my dog.  that should be my decision.  what are we china for dogs now.  NO PUPPIES.  go to hell.  i will gladly be an outlaw then.  come near my dog and get shot. 

Mary Della Valle
Mary Della Valle

Animals, unlike humans, do not have the ability to reason when it comes to reproducing. Granted, there are some people who act like animals when it comes to reproduction - Nadya Suleiman, the Gosselins, the Duggars, et al - but the reality is humans have the ability to rise above their animal nature. Pets do not. Our cats have always been spayed/neutered because we love them. Reproduction brings hardship, starvation, and severe overpopulation which will eventually destroy this planet due to lack of natural resources.

Glenn Festog
Glenn Festog

"Reproduction brings hardship, starvation, and severe overpopulation which will eventually destroy this planet due to lack of natural resources."

Really? Wow. If only those cats and dogs hadn't been drilling for oil in the Gulf...., or forcing GMO's on people..., or flying those planes into the Towers, or per-emptively attacking other countries for oil, or drag netting the oceans...., God only knows what the hamsters are up to. Its so obvious, just subject your pets to an unnatural process for your convenience and save the world.

The reality is that humans "rising above their animal nature" is a wash. You all sit back and do nothing but pontificate over stupid c**p like "spaying/neutering" pets when you should be discussing (and implementing) the exact same program for politicians.

Here's a program for you: offer a bounty for dead strays. In this economy I bet the stray problem would be over in less than a month. Maybe $10 per dog, $5 per cat, and $  .25 for pigeons. $100 for an alligator in the sewers..... In your home and yard they are pets, once they leave that area they're "game animals" or "varmints". Then you would absolutely keep control of your "pets" location "because we love them."

Megan Mason
Megan Mason

https://www.facebook.com/pages...  Over pet population is in crisis mode in the U.S. Yes,why don't we keep letting animals breed,eventually the majority of them will wind up in shelters & gassed to death.What an option.Animal Gas Chambers exist in 31 states across the U.S. Gassing in an inhumane,painful way for any animal to endure.Please visit the link above,maybe you may change your mind.

Megan Mason
Megan Mason

Well is letting animals go to the Gas Chamber any better............something has to be done about the over pet population in the U.S. while animals are multiplying so are the numbers increasing each day of animals that die in gas chambers (in shelters) that are funded by tax dollars.https://www.facebook.com/pages/Take-Ac... Which option is fairer?

GellyEndive
GellyEndive

More stupidity from the government. If I thought that it would ACTUALLY WORK I might be in favor.

Look, there is already a law in place that licenses for whole (un-neutered) pets cost significantly more than neutered pets and yet it's not made much of a difference, has it? Still endless pitbulls are bred by ghetto boys.Ghetto boys don't license their dogs.

It's akin to all of the buidling violation fees for ghetto buildings. Yep that has really worked to keep buildings in tip top shape. NOT

To me, the biggest, telling issue is when the Neuter Mobile went around the city, offering FOR FREE to neuter pets. They finally took it off the street because there wasn't enough business.

YOU CANNOT MAKE PEOPLE DO THE RIGHT THING BY MAKING LAWS.

I have NEVER bred a pet. and I've had dogs and cats all of my life. I currently do rescue for a particular breed. I would be happy if pet animals were so few that they cost $1,000 and the average Joe couldn't afford them. But that said:

While I know that this new law will not work, I also have these concerns:

1) Wha'ts the opt out for animal health issues? I regularly get, as rescue dogs, elderly pets that are not spayed/neuterd and I will not do that to them late in life. I have a breed that has trouble with anesthesia. I adopted a 12 year old Frenchie a few months ago and she is not spayed. What am I supposed to do now, spay her and risk her death? This breed lives to 12 years old.

2) Honestly, some breeds do not develop fully without sex hormones, and I'd not want one of my adopted dogs neutered at 3 months. I want a dog that fully develops into the breed standard.

Newfyx4
Newfyx4

Sorry, this is a bad bill. As proven in other locations, these type of bills not only DO NOT encourage responsible ownership, it does the opposite. In addition, new studies have indicated that dogs should not be spayed or neutered before 12 to 18 months, to prevent Patel arcs Oma, and other medical issues. Also Responsible breeders, do not "Make" money on litters, they breed to improve the breed, not to make money. This is a poorly conceived bill, and will ultimately cost the taxpayers more in taxes, than the revenues they think they are going to get. If the taxpayers believe that the people currently employed by governmental entities are going to do what they do now, and then enforce the provisions of the bill, then you had better look mor into it. Governments are cutting positions to save money. Less people will mean less ability to perform to the current workload, let alone adding the provisions of this bill.

Vicky
Vicky

At last someone has the sense to realise that bad owners are the reason millions of dogs die in so called 'shelters'every year. If you are not a registered breeder you should not have a fertile animal. End of story.Depriving animals of their hormones is unnatural - so is killing healthy animals for lack of homes. All shelters should have glass walls so people could see the results of indiscriminate breeding.

mary
mary

A Dog (bitch ) can produce 2,700 dogs in 5 years.

A pair of cats and their kittens can produce 420,000 offspring in 7 years!!!!!Spaying and neutering is the only way to go.Too many are being killed every day because homes cannot be found for them.

fearnot
fearnot

this is BS.. these numbers have been debunked ages ago.. people who believe this also believe the earth is flat

TheGreat
TheGreat

So no to abortions and yes to sterilized pets. Western civilization/capitalism won't be happy till all animals are gon and nothing is left but an mindless workforce to make the elitist richer. And that's the truth.

disgusted
disgusted

Many of the comments posted here are some of the most sickening, disgusting, hate-filled words I have read in my thirty-six years of life.  It truly is a sick sad world we live in when so many individuals have such a negative view of other people that they would openly spout racist, prejudiced, heinous charges against those they do not agree with.  You, the self-centered, narcissitic, hate filled insects are the ones who should do the world a favor and pick a gun from your huge collection, go outside, and rid the world of your parasitic ideals.

I would love to see this "liberal free" world you backwoods, close minded conservative tea party nutbars want would look like.  A horror among horrors I am sure.

You should be ASHAMED.  You are terrible, horrible, awful human beings who clearly have no empathy and no compassion for anyone or anything.

Crystal Lemke
Crystal Lemke

I think this is a good idea. This country has enough dogs and cats out on the street as it is. The animals can't choose to be spayed and neutered themselves, but I know if they had they could give their offspring the choice between being safe and warm with a loving family and being cold and alone, starving on the streets, I think they would choose the family. Lets make it so fewer animals have to know the meaning of suffereing. If people want to breed their pets, make them buy a permit as so many other things in this country require. Lets make it so pets that are lost can find their way home. If people don't want to do this for their pets, maybe they don't care about them enough. Maybe they shouldn't have them at all!

Yobumobukobu
Yobumobukobu

Most of these comments here are absolutely ridiculous. Many of you argue as if the government wanted to cut your testicles off instead of your pet's.

Instead of whining about "taking away your freedom" (do you alsoconsider it taking away your freedom if you are not allowed to kill your neighbor?) you should see what the situation looks like in the US. Countless animals dying in shelters everyday because nobody wants them. There could finally be a law to prevent this and most of you just whine how horrible this is. Is it really that horrible to prevent suffering?

fearnot
fearnot

shleter numbers have plummeted in the past years.. some shelters import dogs from elsewhere so that they can keep their doors open

Granitebluz
Granitebluz

If this passes maybe we can get a bill that we introduce the same for the politicians! and then put the castrated parts where it would do the most good on the politicians!!

Luvsbt
Luvsbt

This is wrong.  The decision to pay/neuter should be between a pet owner and their vet.  It is very restrictive for no good reason.  There is no evidence that mandatory s/n reduces strays.  In fact, there is evidence that it INCREASES  strays and animal surrendered to shelters.

Kevin Pearson
Kevin Pearson

First it starts with Saint Louis, Then it will be implemented state wide,. then nationwide even in the rural areas.  

 Then dogs and cats aren't going to be enough, then it will have to apply to all animals kept as pets, and they will classify horses and cattle as pets and even chickens, so that ever farmer would be required to obtain a breeder license at 200 bucks a head per year even for their cattle. and their chickens, and some of those broiler houses have 10000 + chickens in them at one time.  This is just the first stone to be thrown for the liberals to have total control over the food supply. 

LIBERALS MUST BE SPAYED AND NEUTERED FOR THE PROTECTION OF THE SENSIBLE POPULATION

JS
JS

Actually horses and cattle have been getting chipped for decades before the domestic pet chip was available.  And farmers already do pay per head.  Man, you just have no idea what you are arguing for or against, do you?  This isn't a political issue, and even if it was, you're not doing your "side" any good.  But keep it up, it IS funny to read!!!

Glenn Festog
Glenn Festog

 Actually, they didn't implement the chipping program for farmers until 2006 [http://grist.org/food/griscom-...] so your "decades" remark was somewhat hyperbolic. Further, any law or regulation that changes the status of your personal private property IS A POLITICAL ISSUE.

Kimisue12
Kimisue12

It Ain't Hip To Be Chipped !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JeddMcHead
JeddMcHead

If they start sterilizing and microchipping all illegal immigrants and welfare recipients THEN I think they'll be onto something really beneficial to society.  Dogs and cats are a good start, though.

Mike N.
Mike N.

I'm wondering which conservative blogger instructed his or her minions to come here and post.  Comments on the DailyRFT [with all due respect] don't blow up like this without outside influence.  The fact that the comments quickly degenerated into people recomending forced sterilization of lower-class African-American women really says a lot.

Shelley Powers
Shelley Powers

The lack of coherence in the writing is a dead giveaway, too...

JeddMcHead
JeddMcHead

To be fair (to me) I never specified any particular races.  Of course, being the liberal sheep you are, I'm not surprised you assumed some conservative blogger "instructed... minions" to come here and post.  You guys are so used to getting your talking points and marching orders from MoveOn.org and other libtard organizations that you assume it's the same for the right as well.  You are a tool!

Erika
Erika

"Comprochicos" (Victor Hugo) used to deform children to sell them to freak shows. Today governments bends the minds of children before kids know enough to form their own opinions, thus the government is the "comprochicos" of today and just as deadly.  

Erika
Erika

You kids have been brainwashed! Groceries don't appear on shelves, slaughter is involved. You might be surprised what you would eat if you were starving.

roberta
roberta

wow, some of you guys are funny. this sounds like a problem reaction solution paradigm, close the shelters, create more stray problems and walla, more excuses to force draconian measures of tyranny on people. this all slaps of agenda 21, google it, first of all they really can do without the microchip thing, as for finding your pets a tag works nice and so do those gps collars.

next use taxpayer funds to enable people (except those who really are in need) to leach off others and hence create anger and hatred against the welfare recipients, reduce the availablity of decent jobs and add high taxation to cause the problem of welfarism, use the irresponsiblity ot others as an excuse to harass and restrict dare I say oppress people? that are decent law abiding. (not to be confused with legalism here) create the problem so that governments can justify the one option that gives them more property rights. your property rights by the way.

deliberatly create a housing boom by giving banks permission to make high risky loans and giving them bailouts to compensate and leave houses empty and unsold to keep the housing prices up (create a scarcity). create anger against the average person when the anger should be directed higher up.

the reality is if they offer one solution that means they are lying in my short life span, compared to turtles and some trees, I have learned there is no such thing as only one solution to any problem, there are always many options.

it is a red flag when they offer only one option, give up some of your rights being the only option, right there should set off alarm bells in your mind.  people calling themselves government have always sought to rule over others and have always believed they own you. but to avoid uprisings and violence they have to use trickery, any other country like china they just come out and say it. do it or die.

second fixing a pet does them no injustice, in fact i have had both and by far the happinest and most relaxed and healthiest pets were teh fixed ones. but to use force via a fine is the wrong way and forcing microchipping is the wrong course how about an a heavy campagn on the tv and newspapers advocating the fixing and options those who cant afford it right up front (vets usually want payment all at once). encourage this, advocate the cruelty of pushing unwanted pets on others and for the animal itself, show videos of the results of unwanted pets who have wandered and gotten sick or starved start when kids are young the responsiblity and conseqences of no showing proper regard for their neighbor, the animals and yourself..

show the damage the stray cats cause. to the birds and animals, the one cat I see around here really dones a number on the mice, problem is he also kills the poor chipmunks and makes the birds scared to come around, of course my dogs don't deter the birds but sure does the cats.

reaching a balance between individual rights and rights of others called society is tricky, how to respect the rights of an individual who is imposing unwanted things on their neighbor (maybe not a direct harm but harm nonetheless) the pendulum has a tendency to swing to far right or left hard to keep that balance. if your irresponsible you should have to pay, not the responsible,problem what is considered being responsible? some think that they should not fix their pets as it might harm them, so if that is the case show me something, state a factual case, the case for fixing as a good loving thing for the animal so far outweights sentiments not based on real evidence.

dont let rulers divide and conquer with less important issues (comparitivly) when the problem is lawlessness in government and a moral bankruptcy of those occupying a position called government. stop biting at each other. man was never meant to rule over man, they don't have the ability or the right, only God does and his laws are easy to learn even tho may be hard to apply sometimes depending on the situation. jeremiah 10:23

if you love God himself first and your neighbor as yourself you will know automatically what the right thing is to do. these qualities of love for god and neighbor and the golden rule will guide you in making decisions on what is best for the animal, the neighbors and the enviorment, not every one will do this and this is why government has to step in to bad they become over bearing when they do.

Kevin Pearson
Kevin Pearson

Any can loan any money to anyone that they want to. No permission is needed.

 The problem comes when you have the Attorney General, Andrew Cuomo, DEMANDING that a certain percentage of loans MUST be of the high-risk variety that you are referring to. 

JS
JS

I think it's funny that in the cities they cite as examples of why they should pass this law, mandatory spay and neuter has been a failure.  So of course it makes perfect sense that St. Louis would pass it.  No conspiracy, no political motive, just more dead animals then before it was passed.  St. Louis Aldermen FAIL.

David
David

Incremental conditioning is what this is. Once the sheeple allow their pets to be chipped, they too will want it. They’ll want their children chipped so we know they are safe etc; yeah take the mark of the beast!STOP passing laws and start repealing them like prohibition of marijuana!  Vote for LIBERTY, what America stands for. Stop wasting our tax paying money.Check out the REAL worldtruthknowledge.com

Shelley Powers
Shelley Powers

Your readers irritate the hell out of me.

They equate this with Nazism, totally forgetting about what the Nazis did and didn't do. One thing they didn't do, was institute a mandatory spay neuter program. One thing they did do, was kill over six million people.

Oh, but to these hyperbole laden pea brains, the two acts are the same.

If they decide to forgo the Nazi route, then they start trumpeting about the Constitution. They quote some other pea brain who managed to get a gig on TV about how acts like this are against the Constitution, and quote bits and pieces of it, without even understanding what they're quoting.

If everything they say is against the Constitution really was against the Constitution, they wouldn't be sitting on their  behinds complaining in comments--they'd have to out on the street trying to survive the anarchy they'd find themselves in.

Then we have the ones claiming chips cause cancer, or bemoaning the emasculation of fixed dogs--the city isn't after your privates, bud.

I'm sure if we dug through all of the comments, someone will bring up how this is a conspiracy, and the dogs are being chipped so that Homeland Security can track their movements, and hence, ours.

People can agree or disagree on these topics without become hysterical and spitting all over the screen.

I happen to believe in spaying and neutering pets. You'll have fewer problems with the pets, including less incidence of cancer, less spraying the home, and fewer behavioral problems. Microchipping a pet helps ensure their return if they get away from you or your house. Both are common sense for pet owners.

However, I don't think this bill will do much good with St. Louis stray dog and cat problem. The city needs to get off its collective behind and provide decent funding for animal control. This includes a new, decent shelter, rather than dumping the strays on the area non-profits. Yeah, alderman, you're going to have to actually do something besides pass a bill about the stray animal problem.

The people irresponsible enough to dump their dogs or cats or allow them to roam freely aren't going to suddenly get responsible about having them spayed or neutered. However, if there are fewer dogs and cats in the street, their irresponsible behavior is going to be more apparent, and laws can be more easily enforced. Hopefully then the city can start considering a bill of this nature.

Janelle
Janelle

You cannot adopt a dog from the HSUS or any shelter that isn't spayed or neutered.   They do the procedures automatically.   Spaying females reduces their risks of certain cancers.   I've had dogs that got neutered and didn't notice any difference in their personality.   If you don't intend on breeding the female,  I don't understand why anyone would prefer to let her go through heat cycles and have every dog in the area trying to get in your yard.   It doesn't make sense to me. 

superD
superD

It's a shame that people make this about welfare and government assisted programs for HUMANS, and not concentrate on the real issue at hand. You talk about the Shaquita's and the Tyrones and such. It's kind of funny that the Shaquita's and the Tyrone's are the ones with a lot of un-altered animals making money off of breeding dogs and not turning that income into the government because they don't want to let the government how they are driving that brand new Escalade. Any real dog breeder and responsible one at that, knows there is NO money in breeding dogs. There are plenty of responsible dog breeders in the St. Louis area alone and I have the privelage of being one of those. I do not make a dime. I have spent 10's of thousands of dollars showing dogs and I will never make that money back. On the same note, a woman who used to be able to afford to spend hundreds of dollars every weekend going to dog shows and representing responsible breeding and dog ownership, I am now forced to use and EBT card and get free medical care for my child. Not only has the economy hit my family hard, but my husband threw us out on the streets with no where to go. A husband who controlled me for years and would not let me work. It is hard for me to find a job and guess what folks, I AM WHITE! There are a ton of assisted programs for pets too. Some will spay and neuter for free. There are PLENTY of non-profit groups that spay and neuter for CHEAP! Unfortunately, there are irresponsible people and there is NOTHING anyone can do about it. It doesn't matter if they pass this bill or not, these people are going to continue breeding their dogs, letting their dogs run the streets knocking up other strays and these poor puppies are going to be left homeless, dead, starving, etc. And people are going to keep breeding humans, because they can. Some have NO business having children and it's a shame for the poor kids. Guess the kids will grow up just like their parents. And at the same time, responsible breeders are going to continue to breed their dogs for the love of the breed and to better the breed and continue to be broke doing it. it's obvious who those are. Drive some of the city streets and count how many dogs are tied up to the front porch by a CHAIN. And then look at how many people you see with a fenced yard, walking their dogs on leashes, participating in responsible dog ownership activities. Just as anyone knows, that the bill about puppy mills is never going to work out either. It just doesn't happen. There's not enough enforcement to go through with any of it.  

CommonSenceRealist
CommonSenceRealist

I also agree this just isnt fair, We have many human beings who have 0 going for them & they breed more chidren into the world and yet were not spaying & neutering them ( least not yet ) but yet my tax dollars have to take care of them, If you want some real legislation make it a crime as it would be against a child if its not takien care of properly & your problems even tho will take some time will eventually be solved. Do any of you know their now gassing animals in gas chambers like they did the Jews during the holocaust? & were is all the outrage?

Maggiedoda
Maggiedoda

Is St. Louis going batty?

Start a recall on this person, if they want to do the above what's next, sterilizing humans to stop child abuse and over farming the country side? Remember eugenics?

Lightmanroth007
Lightmanroth007

Silly me. As I read the 'comments' I find that it's not about animal welfare & reducing unwanted animal numbers. I was so 'off topic!'

Lightmanroth007
Lightmanroth007

No animal breeder or shop etc should sell non desexed animals. All puppy/kitten mills should be banned & NO ONE SHOULD BE A HOBBY BREEDER!!!! Check out the Australian push for Oscars Law. This is about successfully reducing unwanted and abandoned pets. Animal welfare first! Anyone who finds excuses not to desex their animals really are only making excuses and are irresponsible to animals.

ExposeDEMLiars
ExposeDEMLiars

Do you think that ANYTHING the government wants to do is ok?  In a socialist dictatorship, the government forceably controls every aspects of the citizens life.  In a free society, the government has no place interfering in peoples lives.  The right way to handle this is to leave responsible people alone and pass (and enforce) laws against abandoning animals.  That is where the issue changes from a private matter to a community matter.

Lucysowner
Lucysowner

So the end game of your plan is to eventually have no companion animals if they are all neutered. Maybe I don't want a feral dog because that is all that will be left. 

Kevin Pearson
Kevin Pearson

I never understood how spaying and neutering pets had any effect on the number of strays.  People take care of their pets and their offspring I don't understand the connection.

  Think of strays as pests. Would spaying an neuter pet mice keep down a rat population?    I could understand if animal control picked up strays and sterilized them and then released them, but if you are going to pick up strays, you might as well take them to a shelter to begin with rather than just releasing them.   Do they think that if people spayed and neutered their pets then the only way that anyone else would get pets is to adopt a stray, which could likely be feral and wouldn't make good pets. 

  PETA freaks and other animal lovers say "If you love your pet, you would have them spayed and neutered"   I could understand that a parent of teenagers would like to have them spayed and neutered, but they don't.  Why would it make sense to pets?  Only in the mind of a liberal, I guess. 

  Maybe they think that if your pets are sterilized then they wouldn't be impregnating other strays on the street.  Well there are PLENTY of other strays already on the street for that to have any impact.  Besides, if you well groomed and pedigreed pet DID, then the offspring might be more cute than normal and people would be more likely to adopt them than they would if they were 100% stray.

Crystal Lemke
Crystal Lemke

Someone can be a responsible pet owner and breed a litter of puppies. This person loves all the puppies and makes sure that they all find a home. One of the puppies escapes from their new owner or slips through an open door. This new owner doesn't try to track down their pet that counts on them for food and shelter, and now this puppy is out on the streets. This puppy becomes classified as 'feral' simply because it is a stray that has not had proper socialization. This puppy fathers/mothers a litter of unwanted and unloved puppies that are also on the street.

People can be responsible pet owners and still contribute to the problem. Until there are no more dogs or cats living in shelters, waiting for a stable and loving home, people should NOT breed their dogs. Just because you love your pets and would do anything for them, doesn't mean the next person will do the same. If your friends think your dog is cute, don't create a litter of puppies. Tell your friend to go to the shelter and give a needy dog or cat a loving home.

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