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MO Rep. Stacey Newman Proposes Bill to Restrict Vasectomies

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Gentlemen: Stacey Newman, Missouri state representative, wants to handle your balls.
Well, well, well. The birth-control debate has finally come to our swimsuit areas, gentlemen. Yesterday Missouri State Representative Stacey Newman (D-St. Louis County) filed HB1853, which would only allow a man to have a vasectomy when doing so would protect him from serious injury or prevent his death.

Ah, the legislation's on the other set of genitalia now.
Rep. Newman -- whom I'd like to nominate for Hero Squad right here and now -- has been frustrated with the recent political debates over birth control access and reproductive health. The legislation is her pointed way of combating the idea that family planning is something only women have to worry about.

If passed, HB1853 will insure that vasectomies will only be performed in medical facilities licensed by the Department of Health and Senior Services, such as a hospital, ambulatory surgery center or similarly designated health facility. Vasectomies will be legal and safe, and the back-alley ballsnipper that so many indigent men are forced to seek out when they want to get their junk switched off will become a thing of the past. For too long, men have butchered themselves using weed-whackers, small chainsaws and footballs to the groin so that they could no longer father children they didn't want to be a father to. HB1853 will bring us to a more enlightened age.

Also, it could conceivably cause one of those right-wing bible-fondlers who are so certain that they have the authority to dictate what women can do with their bodies to choke on both indignation and irony. Bitter, bitter irony.

Rep. Stacey Newman, you got a great big pair of brass balls. Never change.


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ladiealoha72
ladiealoha72

Here's two more ideas for the socially conservative among us:

1) A bill to mandate that before engaging in potentially procreative sex, all parties must sign a contract, acknowledging that if a pregnancy occurs, the male will be financially responsible to compensate the female for any and all complications she experiences, AND to be financially responsible for the medical bills she incurs due to gestation and delivery. Every...Single....Time they engage in said activity.

Or,

2) A bill to mandate that all citizens/residents must submit to egg/sperm harvest, followed by either tubal ligation, or vasectomy, at the age of 10 years, and that only those with a true and documented desire to become parents, shall be allowed to attempt becoming parents,  with no exceptions.

Do we want to reduce abortions, or do we want to regulate sex lives? Because if we want to reduce abortions, we have to reduce unwanted/unhealthy pregnancies. That means reducing poverty, reducing the incidence of rape, and supporting those who cannot afford, or are incapable of raising, children, without our assistance.

Abortion is far less expensive to society, than is trying to fix the problems caused by having unwanted, or unprepared-for,  kids.

Avis Brooks
Avis Brooks

Okay, I am not finished with this yet. It is not my decision to force a woman/girl to carry to term a fetus that is the result of incest or rape. It is also not cheap, even when using the services of the much maligned Planned Parenthood, much less a private doctor.What we all have to do is put ourselves in the shoes of the woman/girl that is in this position unwillingly. The result of these situations can be both physically, emotionally and financially devastating. Don't be so quick to judge, it could be your mother, sister or daughter finding themselves faced with one of these situations. Try to be more compastionate and understanding. Walk a mile knowing that even if you happen to be a man science could make it possible for you to be the one pregnant. After all, the main defference between male & female is where we carry our jewels - inside for women - outside for men. Virtually the same parts.

Avis Brooks
Avis Brooks

I just ran across this & it tickles me to no end. Abortion is not always used as a method of birth control. I know. I have been there and done that. It was my only option. I was not a teenager when I became pregnant while using the pill. This pregnancy was a threat to my life and the babies. There are times that abortion is the only option. Thanks to Planned Parenthood I was able to save my life. I had a very supportive partner (later husband) that was there with me every step of the way. It was not an easy decision by any means. I have never regretted our decision or second guessed it. Some years later I became pregnant again without birth control, intentionally. The result was tubal pregancy that exploded both my ovarary and the tube. I bled internally for 2 weeks before I/we realized there was a problem. By this time I was in my mid-thirties and the clock was ticking. We were trying desperately to have a baby which nearly cost my life. Vasectomies are essentially the same as a tubal ligation. This is a great way to point out that both parties should be allowed the choice of what they want to do with their bodies. It is not something that should be argued based on politics or by bashing another's morals. Morals should never be legislated. Morals are personal and not political. I do love the point being made by this Representative. This is personal, between the woman, her partner and doctor. Please, let's do give all men the equal right of vasectomy. See I can post under my name because I am not ashamed or afraid.

GEAH
GEAH

How about if men insist that other people pay for vasectomies if they want one?

Wrjones1
Wrjones1

A vasectomy should be provided to every male at ten years of age.This would protect the young man from having to pay child support to lazy young women that have no desire to support themselfs...I have not noticed a shortage of people!

Asa
Asa

YES. Best bill ever. As an Orthodox Catholic, I support this anti-sterilization bill.

hank moody
hank moody

this just proves state governments have too much time on their hands and have outlasted their usefulness.

Diane Haven
Diane Haven

Perhaps if we raise people's taxes to help support daycare, healthcare and college education for all these unwanted children created by taking away birth control, etc, people would shut up and mind their own business!!!

Worn out taxpayer
Worn out taxpayer

Doesn't surprise me in the least. The Democrats want to expand their voter base and what better way than to prohibit vasectomies and increase the already out of control birth rate.The more people the Democrats have on welfare the better than like it. It's long range planning for the Democrats. This clown should be introducing legislation to limit the numbers of kids that minorities can have instead of condoning irresponsible child birth. This is a prime example of another Democrat out of touch with the real world. The US Taxpayer is getting sick and tired of financially floating all these illegitimate kids.

Fr. Peter Calabrese
Fr. Peter Calabrese

And pro-Lifers are supposed to be upset about this?  ROTFLMBO.  Her pro-Life rating is going to go to 0.1% now.  Don;t tell NARAL or Emily's List.

Riftsrunner
Riftsrunner

Am I missing something? Are women being prevented from getting hysterectomies (sp?)? That is the female equivalence of a vestectomy. If we are comparing it to abortion then there is no opposite state in the male, so argument is a fail. Why do we try to equate the genders anyway? We each serve a purpose in the propagation of the species.

Thomas Peters
Thomas Peters

hey genius(es) -- way to introduce legislation that agrees with the GOP and others opposed to the HHS Mandate -- I explain: http://www.catholicvote.org/di...

"Opponents of the HHS mandate don’t want to be forced to pay for vasectomies.

And Rep. Newman, thinking herself to be oh so clever just introduced a bill that … you guessed it, ensures that employers … are not forced to pay for vasectomies (as often).So, in other words, Rep. Newman just introduced legislation that agrees with those of us who argue employers should not be forced to pay for vasectomies.… now that’s ironic."

Kim
Kim

I would like to submit Rep Stacey Newman's name for a Nobel prize. And I'd also like to offer her my ovaries, as I suspect that she'd keep them safer than I'm allowed to at this present time.

ironyismymiddlename
ironyismymiddlename

Sounds good to me - I happen to be against birth control, whether the method is chemical, surgical or barrier.  So, I love the fact that a law will be passed preventing the vast majority of vasectomies. 

Jai
Jai

Omg. How dare a woman dictate what a man does with his body! (In other news, Rep. Stacey Newman is awesome)

Chris
Chris

There's a difference between the words "insure" and "ensure", in case you were wondering.

Joanna Neilson
Joanna Neilson

Fantastic response by the Representative, I look forward to reading the resulting diatribe in the comments below...

Dave
Dave

Oh goody, Missouri will make another top ten retarded list.

Connrad74
Connrad74

What a dumb ass. Typical democrat. This is the reason our country is so messed up. It's all about the entitlements. Anyway to buy more votes. Oh give free birth control and they will vote for us. When will it all stop. Women can go to plan parent hood and get birth control pillsFor nothing. What other groups will the dems pay off to get more votes.

Mark Weis
Mark Weis

Please tell me this is a joke.

Proteios1
Proteios1

Vasectomies, breast augmentation, birth control, and on and on. Selective and optional and consequently...Another thing taxpayers shouldn't pay for, but should come out of an individual's pocket if they want it. It's not for me to tell you not to do any of these things, I just don't want to pay for it. Why is that so hard to understand?

Stacym_63
Stacym_63

Well one thing is for sure.  This article is proving to be a hell of an IQ test!  

Turusachan
Turusachan

yebbut men don't LIKE to get vasectomies...

K P
K P

I make it a habit to not trust or like any politician of either party, but right now I'm having a hard time not smiling about this woman.

Jenn
Jenn

A modest proposal- Let's fund research on how to implant a zygote into the male body and let all those guys that insist it must be incubated to ripeness be forced to carry, give birth, and care for the result all without any support from the egg donor.

Xohautecocoaxo
Xohautecocoaxo

Maybe it's just me, but to put this in context for inerrant-bible Christian extremists, this sounds much like an abortion AND effective contraception (sterilization): http://www.biblegateway.com/pa...

Whether or not it 'worked', we obviously have no way of knowing, but the ritual would be humiliating in itself.

I assume some fundamentalists will defend it because the woman was suspected of being an 'adulteress'. By the way, an embryo is not even close to being a viable baby. If you think so, I suggest you stop eating chicken eggs among other things. Late-term abortions can obviously be argued as 'killing' a fetus/baby, but believe it or not, there is an actual biological difference between an embryo and human child with it's organs, brain, heart, etc. Personally, I don't think embryos, eggs, or sperm, have souls... At the end of the day, it's a personal and private decision, and not ALL Christian denominations/individuals believe an unborn child immediately has a soul.

Or perhaps I'm just the crazy one for not being an 'inerrant bible-believing Christian', but I don't think the type of individual who NEVER has to worry about being pregnant, (let alone being raped and pregnant or experience any negative effects of pregnancy on their individual body), should have authority on the matter of NOT getting pregnant in the first place. It just shows how self-entitled someone must be to even have the gall to speak on it, let alone believe he can provide any context as to every conceivable situation in which contraception and/or abortion would be considered.

Missyerable
Missyerable

Its 2012. Its unfathomable that women are still penalized for enjoying sex and are told by men what kind of contraceptive is appropriate. Abstinence will never work. Loved this article

Aesadin
Aesadin

this is possibly the greatest irony that will ever grace politics, i love it.

APatientMan
APatientMan

Just wondering - How does restricting vasectomies equate to the Right's stance that they don't want to pay for someone's birth control or have that payment mandated by govt.?

Seems like the Right is staying true to their beliefs while the Left is being hypocritical. Does the Left ever think anything through to its logical end?

Jared Parsons
Jared Parsons

Love it. I think she should have pushed for requiring a rectal exam before granting the procedure. 

Welksond
Welksond

Most of these issues would be moot except for the over reach of government. People should be able to have whatever contraception they want. Government has no business paying for or mandate someone else pay for it. You want the pill you buy it. But to say that someone else has to pay for it so you can have it is a joke. If you can't afford it go to planned parenthood and buy a condom.

Paige
Paige

Paul, I think you meant to say that Rep. Newman has giant, brass ovaries and isn't afraid to use them!  (Responsibly and on her own schedule!)

Michael
Michael

IF Rep. Newman was actually paying attention she would realize that the Catholic church does not now, and does not want to pay for vasectomies.   The Catholic church is actually not against women and for men.   It does not now, and does not want to pay for abortions, contraceptions, vasecetomies, tubal ligations, birth control pills, capital punishment, euthanasia, or any means that destroys a life between conception and natural death.   The Catholic church is one of the few groups that actually is consistent in this arena.  They are not trying to force anyone to believe what they do, they just don't want to be forced to pay for this, against their conscience.

Cyndiver19
Cyndiver19

Maybe we should quit paying for that little blue pill too.

Avis Brooks
Avis Brooks

I would be more than happy to support that service through Planned Parenthood. They are there for men as well as women. I already pay for their Viagra through private insurance plans.

Richard M
Richard M

"This clown should be introducing legislation to limit the numbers of kids that minorities can have" ... Holy fuck. What planet are you from, and how did it get stuck in the 1930's? 

Fluffydragon
Fluffydragon

Do you know where your closest planned parenthood is? Do you know some women have to drive hours just to get to one? Did you know what some women won't want to tell people or friends they got their protection at PP because they will be shamed by ignorant people just for going for a non-abortion related issue?

Pete Pepper
Pete Pepper

 Problem is YOUR not paying for it at all.  Its the insurance company that pays out, and the people getting the coverage that pays in.  Thats the big elephant in the room the right fright wing does not want you to notice.

Richard M
Richard M

Research into male pregnancy will never, ever, get funded. Ever.

Malaina_23
Malaina_23

we want it covered like any other medication.  we don't need someone else to pay for it.  there is a big difference.  and not everyone has access to planned parenthood.  nor is it  free to everyone who wants it.  that is a huge misconception.  i went there for years to get my birth control because i didn't have health insurance through my employer, and i had to pay for it myself.  when you only make minimum wage, that is another expense that eats away at your paycheck.  i wasn't an irresponsible teenager, either.  i was working and going to college, trying to get to a point where i could have children and be able to take care of them.  people always say the same thing, then don't have sex.  if all women who didn't want to get pregnant stopped having sex, what would you men do with all that viagara you get with your insurance?

lalalelu
lalalelu

Conscience?  What conscience?  You mean the conscience that protects child abuse?

Debjace
Debjace

The Catholic church is NOT paying for any of it, so they should have NO say in any of this. PEOPLE pay for health insurance and it is health insurance that needs to cover these things..... and even if people are medicaid, the Catholic Church still has NO say in this as they DO NOT PAY TAXES. So if Churches are tax exepmt, how is that their opinions even make it public venue at all????? They have no dog in this fight!

Xohautecocoaxo
Xohautecocoaxo

 This is not just a Catholic vs. everyone else issue... there are other Christians and people of other religions who may not agree with contraception or abortion due to their personal moral views as it relates to their usually selective religious values. Newman said nothing about Catholics, their hospitals, or the Church because they are not the only religious group largely against contraception or abortion. Many of these zealots certainly don't show this fervor for already living people and the atrocities that occur in foster care, mental hospitals, prisons, domestic disturbances. Some do, but most of the anti-abortion/contraception protestors seem to focus only on measures they cannot control instead of lives they can actively assist for the better (like homeless people  or women fleeing abusive homes).

This is not really about 'morality', it is a battle of wills and control- that only certain people have universally-correct answers to intricate, individual issues/lives that the rest of humanity should adhere to. This is a losing battle, because everything is relative. There will always be something that is or has been done by others that one disagrees with, but which is perfectly acceptable to them. Human ego often translates this into black or white constructs of 'good' and 'bad' in order to feel morally superior, instead of being 'different' in essence. Doing this in legal and governmental terms can either work to the benefit or the detriment of society (examples of such include: benefits- laws, detriment-slavery/institutionalized racism).

  If you don't like something, don't participate in it, but don't try to conveniently have it both ways by taking money from the same process that 'pays' for the things you supposedly disagree with.  People simply need to worry about their own sins and shortcomings instead of attempting to control others' personal actions and defending baseless, slippery-slope conjectures. If there is a judgment after death, then individuals will be accountable for their own actions, you might be disheartened by what they do because of your personal views, but it is really no one's business what people do in their personal lives.

Shetuck
Shetuck

So, these catholic hospitals do not perform vasectomies, etc?

Devilish
Devilish

@all the looney fundies:

if religious institutions do not want to participate with these changes they have the options of A.  do not employ people that do not share your institutions beliefs.and / orB.  refuse to accept federal money. 

problem solved... ur welcome.

Too bad the religious institutions that are crying about their religious freedoms being stepped on seem to want it both ways; they want to do as they please and still take the fed money. Sounds a lot like they want their cake and to eat it too.

Jason1
Jason1

Um, it's you're.  And your (note the correct usage here) use of inane phrases such as "right fright wing" just dilutes the emphasis of your (again, note the correct usage) argument.

Fr. Peter Calabrese
Fr. Peter Calabrese

But let those who don't want to cover it for well established long-term 1st Amendment reasons alone and don't force them to cover it or cover it via some short of accounting shell game.

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