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Mo. Speaker-Designate Tim Jones on Aurora Shooting: Let's Fight Violence with More Guns

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State Representative Tim Jones (R-Eureka) went on KMOX 1120AM yesterday to talk about how laxer gun laws might have abated the shooting in Colorado... oh and also to slam those selfish, dirty hippies who would dare politicize [i.e. talk about reforming gun control laws] this completely unrelated tragedy.

I'm sorry, I just don't see the connection. In fact, I think if someone had been in that movie theater and had been exercising their second amendment rights a little bit more, we might not have had so much bloodshed. You know, I mean, there's a point where you say, why do we have to wait for the police to show up to clean up the mess and the disaster after all the blood had been shed?

We bet George Zimmerman would've said the same thing.

Jones also criticized State Representative Stacey Newman, of sassy penis joke fame, for suggesting that the federal government should revisit a ban on assault weapons the day after the shooting.

First of all I think it's unfortunate that my collegue decided to immediately jump into a tragedy like this within hours of it occurring for, I guess, political purposes. I know that Representative Newman is locked in a very heated primary battle and perhaps she is trying to outflank her opponents on the left.

Nevermind that Jones actually appeared on The Mark Reardon Show that morning to defend expanding Second Amendment rights. So did Jones appear on the radio because he too needs to campaign for a tough primary? No, he's not.

"I'm not aware of any instances where someone who is a law abiding citizen with a conceal and carry permit has been involved as a perpetrator in a crime."

We gotcha, bro. According to the Violence Policy Center, there have been 462 deaths in this country as a result of concealed carry permit holders since May 2007. What's that? They weren't law-abiding citizens? Well yeah, that's what happens when you perpetrate a crime, Jones. You're not a law-abiding citizen anymore, are you?

I think Americans who are smart enough to make decisions for themselves, law abiding Americans, should have the choices and the freedoms to decide how to exercise what they want in the area of the Second Amendment.

No argument there. Except that the Aurora shooter, James Holmes, had been a law-abiding until just after midnight on July 20, when he wasn't anymore.

When asked about conservative columnist Bill Kristol calling for tighter regulation of assault weapons and anti-ballistic gear, Jones said he very much disagreed.

You kind of start going down that slippery slope where you start saying we need to restrict this, well maybe you need to restrict this as well. And then maybe you need to start talking about how much ammunition people can buy. And then you're talking about what kind of hand gun you can purchase.

Yes exactly. That's why common sense, even with all the Second Amendment rights our forefathers bequeathed upon us, dictates that we can't own grenades or personal missiles. Because it's a slippery slope into crazy.

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possible20
possible20

Alas, says Jones, if only somebody else in that movie theater would have been "exercising their second amendment rights a little bit more," i.e., carrying, much of the Aurora bloodshed would have been avoided.  Fair enough.  Let's take that suggestion to its logical conclusion, as made possible here in 'merica.  Everybody in that theater is carrying.  Every man, woman and young adult, all of 'em, armed to protect themselves.  Hey - it's the American way.  Oh, and put Jones and his family in there, too.  The Joker starts blazing away with his legal AR15, fed by 100-round magazines, also legal.  And praise Jesus - not one, but 4-5 people jump up and start shootin' - at what?  The Joker?  Somebody else in the front row?  Each other?  All of the above.  Then more people pull out their constitutionally protected weapons, maybe even a couple more AR15's - hey, they're all legal.  Mass mahem.  Mass dead and dying, until there's one man left standing. But - he's mortally wounded, too.  Such is the perfect storm we've created.  Such is the way these ultra-conservatives would have it.  Only in America.  And guess what, it is going to happen again. Count on it.  And will continue to, until some brave soul stands up and does something about it.  Banning AR15's would be a good start.  Tim Arnold, ex-St. Louisan.

colaughlin
colaughlin

Tim Jones is one of those rare politicians who speak the truth from their perspective. More laws, more restrictions, etc. wil not stop people from obtaining guns if they want them. To suggest that gun control would stop someone insane from commiting an act such as this flies inthe face of history. Your article seems to be a "cheerleading post" for leftist thinking. All you need to do is look around and see who is behind you in pushing gun control. You will see very few politicians for sure because they understand Americans believe in the second amendment. If you don't wish to own a gun, fine. Others DO wish to own a gun and they are guaranteed that right.

lee.e.hilliard
lee.e.hilliard

I have just one question.  Can you show me one time where restricting the average citizens access to firearms has made them safer? 

Kevin Prange
Kevin Prange

@Michael. Isn't it obvious? The the one that upped the arms race by wearing a combat vest and helmet hand is carrying a gun with 10 times the number of bullets as you and back up guns. You'll do fine.

David B Fowler
David B Fowler

Law abiding citizens. Police. 2nd amendment. Enough to keep criminals guessing.

Michael Sierchio
Michael Sierchio

Which dark shape in a dark theater should I be shooting at?

ARationalGunowner
ARationalGunowner

 @lee.e.hilliard Mr gun debate your question is loaded.

 

James Eagan was and average citizen... NO CRIMINAL RECORD... he became a criminal only after he received the guns.

 

Try this... give me an example of how an average citizen needs an AR 15 with a 100 round clip for home defense.

Mehh
Mehh

@lee.e.hilliard How many mass shootings do you

MikeN
MikeN

 @lee.e.hilliard

 I can give you 18,735 examples --that's the number of firearm suicides in the US in 2009 (the last year full data is available.)  The majority of gun-related deaths in the US are suicdes.

lee.e.hilliard
lee.e.hilliard

 @MikeN How would have taking away a suicidal person guns made them any safer?  They would still have access to overdoses of drugs, knives, rope, bridges, etc.  You just changed he method, rather than insuring their safety. 

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