Rev. Larry Rice Considering Lawsuit as City Shuts Street Outside New Life Evangelistic Center

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Reverend Larry Rice is feeling "squeezed" on his own turf.
The battle between the city of St. Louis and New Life Evangelistic Center head Rev. Larry Rice wages on.

The latest clash began last night as the city enacts "special enforcement" on a section of Locust Street west of 14th Street, right outside the NLEC. The sidewalk is often lined in the wee hours of the night with homeless people who've sought services at the center, but don't want to sleep inside.

The city says sleeping outside is dangerous and unsanitary. Rice says it's the homeless' right.

"This is what the law used to do in the '50s," he says. "They're going to come along and try to squeeze us out."

Things have been pretty ugly ever since Rice tried to put up a tent city for the homeless called Integrity Village and the city tore it down. Rice was arrested at the removal. He's been threatening to sue, arguing he got the proper permits for the vacant land.

Now, the city has turned its sights to NLEC, Rice's hub shelter in downtown St. Louis.


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LOVE-0
LOVE-0

Love-O

Larry Rice and Bill Siedhoff should Grow Up.Neither one of them are helping the needy or the loft owner along Washington and Locust by being at War all the Time, Pride is a Bad, Bad Thing. Larry Rice needs to understand that he has a responseability to the home owners in his area. Rice needs to put his feet into the shoe of the families that live in the area. No one wants drunks and druggies, hanging around outside their homes all night.Going to the bathroom all over the place. I know I would not want that around my  home and my children. Maybe Larry Rice should move NLEC to his own home? Then the people that don`t want to come in, can spend the night in his yard..Larry Rice show some "Respect to the men, women and "CHILDREN" that live by NLEC.The RISK, Larry Rice is putting on the people that live near NLEC is to Great , when people are on drugs and stabbing each other.

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Bill Siedhoff needs to help Larry Rice get a new place to run NLEC. The poor and the needy need NLEC but not in area that puts children at risk. If Larry and Bill would work together, they could be an "Inspiration to St,Louis" but; they both just keep acting like "2 KIDS" that need to be in TIME OUT!

klsyanderson
klsyanderson

I'm in my mid 50's and that area has been like that a long time. I recall that park being a hangout for the downtrodden when I was a teen working on the Goldenrod Showboat.

Larryberry
Larryberry

 

There is some fine work going on inside NLEC that the public never see. It is the work of such GOD Fearing men and women  as Rev.Ray and Miss Carolyn who show the mercy of JESUS to poor men,women and children, when no one else will even look at them, when they are walking down the street. The poor, children, and elderly of St.Louis would have a hard time finding help without them. NLEC,St. Pats, Govt. Money, Your Money,My Money and all the free things in world will "NOT" get street people out their of their life of hopelessness. I want them off "YOUR" streets as bad as you do. Recycling Homeless People is what the shelters do, and it doesn`t work ever and, never will.  Relocating them all to the same place  doesn`t work.When they all get together it always ends in drugs and violence. After the ball game a few weeks ago 2  drunk homeless men were fighting in the middle of Broadway, with the "GOOD" baseball fans cheering them on."Who have we Become!"  They don`t need a hand out,they need a helping hand. They need your talents ,  abilities, and Love, they need my talents , abilities and Love .(Most of them don`t know how to do anything,Govt. training programs hardly ever work) They need to be remove from the street  of St.Louis  to location away from each other, given a job,and a place to live," THIS WORKS"!! This Way They Truly Have a New Life.. The people and groups, that "TRULY" have the money, time, and abilities "NEVER HELP" just point fingers .This is our problem, it is our culture of self-centerness that has led to this dehumanization. If "EVERYONE" would pitch in we could end this sickness called homelessness and turn St.Louis into the place EVERYONE wants it to be. The Church People, and The Big Companies are not doing anything that  has really helps. We have the ability to bring PEACE to the streets of St.Louis. See you on the Streets of the "New St.Louis".

John 8:7  "Let him without sin cast the first STONE" (PP)

 

 

larryberry
larryberry

Larry Berry

New Life or No New Life,Larry Rice or No Larry Rice, City of St.Louis or No City of St.louis, all the people that complain about homeless and needy people should stop complaing and start helping. Do you CARE about your fellow human beings? In the  EYES of GOD they are the same as YOU! Maybe when you get to Heaven, GOD will make you set next to a drunken dirty homeless person at the dinner table everyday.Wouldn`t that be FUN!! Busness Owners,CEOs,"CHURCH PEOPLE",  Lawyers, BANKERS, CPAs,Mom, Dads, Teenagers, Doctors,Teachers, Blue Collar Workers,Mayors, Congressmen,MBAs, EVERYBODY!! Together we can do away with ALL HOMELESS SHELTERS and all HOMELESS PEOPLE sleeping on the streets, drinking and doing drugs.They will have JOBS, be DRUG FREE,they will have HOMES, it will be WONDERFUL!!! Stop Being SELF-CENTERED, SHUT UP and START WORKING  Do The RIGHT THING. It easier than you THINK once you START HELPING. It`s Called LOVE.

1Cor.13:13

TerraCottaOwner
TerraCottaOwner

Larry Rice the victim once again. I have mixed feelings as Mr Rice is in the business of trying to 'do good' but rubs many of his neighbors the wrong way with the environment he creates around his center. Mr. Rice also seems to have a difficult time in his dealings with the City of Saint Louis, bizarre publicity stunts like the Tent Cities this summer surely haven't helped his cause.  The story fails to mention a main reason why many decide to stay on the street as opposed to entering NLEC. NLEC has a zero tolerance policy for drinking or drug use (good thing) inside their building. This leaves those deciding to partake, to stay on the sidewalks on the south side of Locust @ 14th. With alcohol, comes fighting and yelling and as we saw earlier this week after the Cheetos stabbing, violence. Anyone with an opinion on this matter should try to walk down Locust when there are 50+ people camped out across from NLEC and see if you would welcome that to your neighborhood?

communityproponent
communityproponent

If he really cared about the homeless, he'd sell his building and use the proceeds to buy a building better suited for his and the homeless' needs.  His building is worth quite a bit and there's TONS of cheap buildings in STL.    Why not move the NLEC to a safer, cheaper building and use the sale proceeds to further help the homeless?  It seems he prefers to bask in the attention of being controversial in downtown    

AllisonSchmidt
AllisonSchmidt

"I have been told by NLEC staff that they have sufficient space to accommodate all the individuals who gather outside their facility. It appears that some people who are homeless choose to remain on the street due to concerns about the condition inside the NLEC." What is "the condition" inside the NLEC? Is there some sort of structural issues? Health hazards? Safety concerns?? The only logical reason I can surmise is that drinking, drug-use and violent behavior are not tolerated within the confines of the church. Therefore, why continue to help the people who purposely refuse a safe shelter for the night in order to engage in such behavior??

loftresident
loftresident

 @larryberry No one is complaining about the homeless in general, as fellow human beings.  We are complaining about the illegal and dangerous acts of these people, directly threatening the safety and comfort of the residential downtown neighborhood. 

KNX2
KNX2

 @communityproponent IF YOU RECALL, HE DID PURCHASE AT LEAST ONE OF THE VACANT CITY BUILDINGS, THEN THE CITY REFUSED TO ZONE IT FOR HIM TO USE FOR THAT PURPOSE. AND WHILE HE IS CONTROVERSIAL, I BELIEVE HIS MAIN GOAL IS TO BRING THE ISSUE INTO THE SPOTLIGHT, WHICH IS HAS. AS THE SAYING GOES "THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS BAD PUBLICITY". THERE ARE VERY FEW PEOPLE WHO DEDICATE THEIR LIVES ENTIRELY TO HELPING OTHERS, SO EVEN IF HE DOES GO A LITTLE TOO FAR, I THINK QUESTIONING HIS INTENTIONS GOES A BIT TOO FAR (IMHO)

loftresident
loftresident

 @AllisonSchmidt I completely agree, Allison.  As as (tax paying, home owner) resident of this street, I cannot understand how Larry Rice can argue that it's the right of the homeless to congregate in large groups and loiter all night, every night.  Rice even put up a Johnny on the Spot in the alley, and passes out blankets. He is encouraging this behavior! I cannot even walk down that block without being hassled for money, or taunted for no apparent reason.  It's increasingly smelled of human waste, and the pigeons population has grown out of control.  There's trash left everywhere along the street & sidewalks.  Keep in mind, there is a school directly across from the NLEC!  No other city neighborhood has put up with Rice's antics trying to build a tent city, so it shouldn't be surprising that the residential area of downtown doesn't want to put up with it either.  Essentially, he's building another tent city on Locust between 14th & 15th.  Hopefully, the city is finally realizing that the non-contributing members of downtown have been dictating what happens here, and the tax-payers who are focused on genuine growth and improvement of our city should be able to be safe from drugs, booze, noise, and excessive pan-handling on their street! 

AllisonSchmidt
AllisonSchmidt

@loftresident @larryberry People are totally missing the point here...sheesh...

Toyota
Toyota

 @loftresident  @AllisonSchmidt

 Ever consider who was "there" first? Also, before long, with the value of the lofts dropping as it is, the transients' space will be worth as much as your own!

AllisonSchmidt
AllisonSchmidt

@loftresident I cannot believe they allow such activity to occur in a school zone. It's completely unacceptable. Not to mention the added police presence this situation is requiring. Police presence that would best be used for other reasons than baby-sitting vagrants who refuse to to follow the rules. It's ridiculous.

asdas
asdas

 @Toyota  Well Toyota, why don't you give your home back to an American Indian then?  Stupidest argument ever. 

AllisonSchmidt
AllisonSchmidt

@loftresident @Toyota I don't live Downtown, but I do live in the city. Issues of safety in any neighborhood should be a concern for all STL city residents. No one wants this type of behavior in any neighborhood from any group of people.

loftresident
loftresident

 @Toyota  @loftresident  @AllisonSchmidt Toyota, that is the weakest argument out there.  Neighborhoods change, and when one property is consistently a nuisance (i.e. allowing illegal activity to occur nightly), it should be handled the same way any other neighborhood would....kick them out. Larry Rice is helping these people in theory more than anything else, and at the expense of the continued growth and perception of our city's core. 

AllisonSchmidt
AllisonSchmidt

@Toyota @loftresident Maybe I should clarify my point here. I am 100% on-board with housing, clothing, feeding and helping the homeless population in the city of STL and nationwide. Absolutely. I am against, however, allowing them to congregate in groups and openly (and seemingly legally) abuse drugs and consume alcohol and participate in violence that has led to recent murder. In simple terms: house and help them, yes. Give them an all night party spot, no.

AllisonSchmidt
AllisonSchmidt

@loftresident Yea, you'd think that would be an important factor. Apparently not.

loftresident
loftresident

 @AllisonSchmidt  @loftresident I don't know why the news networks haven't jumped on the issue of the school being right there.  It's called Confluence Preparatory Academy and its a charter high school.  

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