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Missourians File Petition With White House to Secede From Union


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Grampa Simpson (of Kansas) has always been on board. He once explained why his flag only has 49 stars: "I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missour-ah!""
Here's the text of the amendment:
Upon approval by the voters, this constitutional amendment prohibits the Missouri legislative, executive, and judicial branches of government from recognizing, enforcing, or acting in furtherance of any federal action that exceeds the powers delegated to the federal government.

The state also shall not recognize, enforce, or act in furtherance of any federal actions that: restrict the right to bear arms; legalize or fund abortions, or the destruction of any embryo from the zygote stage; require the sale or trade of carbon credits or impose a tax on the release of carbon emissions; involve certain health care issues; mandate the recognition of same sex marriage or civil unions; increase the punishment for a crime based on perpetrator's thoughts or designate a crime as a hate crime; interpret the establishment clause as creating a wall of separation between church and state; or restrict the right of parents or guardians to home school or enroll their children in a private or parochial school or restrict school curriculum.

The state is also required to interpret the U.S. Constitution based on its language and the original intent of the signers of the Constitution. Amendments to the U.S. Constitution shall be interpreted based on their language and the intent of the congressional sponsor and co-sponsors of the amendment.

The amendment also declares that Missouri citizens have standing to enforce the provisions of the amendment and that enforcement of the amendment applies to federal actions taken after the amendment is approved by the voters, federal actions specified in the amendment, and any federal action, regardless of when it occurred, that the general assembly or the Missouri Supreme Court determines to exceed the powers enumerated and delegated to the federal government by the U.S. Constitution.

Nieve's amendment was placed on the "informal calendar" in May, which means it didn't have the votes to pass but the Senate will hang on to it indefinitely, in case something changes.

Missourians were also infamously divided in their allegiances during the Civil War. Both the Union and the Confederate claimed Missouri as their own and we sent state representatives and troops to both governments. How this happened remains a matter of dispute for many historians, but the conflict (familiarly) highlighted the vast differences between St. Louis and the rest of the state.

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Brian Boyd
Brian Boyd

The great thing about America is the fact you can secede any time you want. Just get up and leave.

Trish Wells
Trish Wells

Hey do we get to vote on this.. Gezzzz.... Everyone might not feel the same ignorant way they do... Abuse of power I tell you...

Robert Winkelmann
Robert Winkelmann

I'd like to start a charity and take donations to assist all these people who want to leave this country to have the fastest possible way out. A free trip to any other place on this planet. However you will never be able to come back. Start packing. At least once and for all the people who are really wanting to tear this country apart exposed themselves. You can't even question that anymore.

Nathan Berkley
Nathan Berkley

@josh, I don't know how much of your taxes you think goes to 'welfare' but it is a lot less than you probably think. Less than one cent on the dollar of federal taxes goes to non-medical welfare.

dsunshyn77
dsunshyn77

Silly silly people to think that the President has all the power !!  In reality congress and senate are the real issue.  They have no term limits, they spend a lot more of americans tax dollars, they can (and do) veto or override or pass whatever they want to no matter who the President is, and their income, tax right-offs, private jets, expense accounts, vacations, ect are paid for by whom?  Indeed american tax payers not many have 2nd job to support their families.  I've yet to see or hear of any of them staying in a motel 6, eating off McDonalds dollar menu, drive an auto more than 8 yrs old (that isn't a government perk, which is also amercians taxers & it does not matter which state your from) !   Americans want to see change stop and look in your own back yard.  Amazing how it seems once elected to congress or senate they are there for 20, 30, 40 years with all the retirement benifits for very comfortable cozy retirement (if they even retire at all).  Hummmm our vets, military or goverment employees dont even get near that.  So the big question is "Why have americans kept the same (very few changes in congress or senate) for hummm the past 10, 20 or in some cases 30plus years?  Americans need to wake up and realize that congress and senate acutally run this country.  Do some research and find out what the Presidents can really do WITH or WITHOUT the congress and senates approval !  The results will shock most americans. To change our US Government it starts with each state changing who they vote for at their state and local levels.  I for one feel we as americans should change few things that we pay for from our elected officials & put spending and term limits on them would be a starting point (on state and local levels).  Something to think about for next elections!  And I am from Missouri, The SHOW ME state!  I did not vote for the incumbents (state or local level) as I tried and was in hopes of changes in Missouri.

Realist
Realist

Sounds like a great idea! If we use MATH (the four-letter-word that Republicans fear most) to look at the issue: According to The Tax Foundation, Missouri receives about $1.30 in Federal tax money for every $1 their citizens pay in Fed taxes. Removing this group of tax freeloaders from the USA will instantly cut the budget and the deficit! A win-win, in my view.

Josh Goodman
Josh Goodman

How bout this.. You want take give money out of your pay check and help the lazy, fine do that. Leave mine alone. Fix the system, then I will help the needy and less off then me.

Don Austin
Don Austin

Go, just leave the Cardinals and Pappy's Smokehouse.

Robert Winkelmann
Robert Winkelmann

The feeble responses from the few Republcans show just how dense they are. One mentions Solyndra but fails to mention that Bush started the program that funded Solyndra and even pushed for approval of their loan in January of 2009. They mentioned that Obama said he would raise taxes...however the GOP also said they would consider it. And remember - expiring tax cuts does not mean a tax increase the same way the sale on Pepsi in the store is not a price increase when the sale price ends. It returns to NORMAL. They cry about welfare but the biggest receivers of welfare are in heavily Republican states (like Missouri). Even the things these hateful Republicans have to throw up all track right back to the GOP. Did they forget that Reagan lowered taxes on the wealthy then increased them on the middle class 12 times? George Bush Sr. continued that legacy. So did Bush Jr. But my God we can't have an increase because after tax cut after tax cut all of a sudden we can't pay our bills. Please, go create your own state out of something like Montana, put up a big electric wall, give everyone loads of guns, ammo and bibles and shut up already. It's this type of hate and absolute lies and misinformation that gave Obama four more years. THANK YOURSELF.

jasonjmont
jasonjmont

Conservatives infuriate me! Look at the facts! Lowering taxes on the rich does not magically create jobs! The rich would not be asking for lower taxes just so they can put their extra money towards jobs! What kind of self deluded world do middle class conservatives live in! You all live in this bubble!! Also how don't we have single payer universal health care?! It's ridiculous that we even made an industry out of health care! How can we put a price on a transplant or a broken leg? Conservatives are so selfish! Bigotry is obviously a prevalent trait in all conservatives!! I'm so happy Romney lost or our country would have gone to shit!! Phew!

Trish Wells
Trish Wells

All the racists need to not wake up in the AM.. The world will be such a better place.. Then we can focus on the other sick folk kidnappers, murderers, sex offenders, serial killers ect.

Matt Madden
Matt Madden

@ Steve Mincer: oh, but flushing money down the drain trying to tame the middle east is a much more worthy effort than investing in technology that will provide cleaner energy for the future. No sir, you are totally welcome to leave

Nathan Berkley
Nathan Berkley

Illinois guy here. If you secede, please let me visit for your cheap gas and cigarettes. I'll get a visa or whatever. I'll even cover my Obama sticker so I am not lynched or whatever.

dyamond17_45662
dyamond17_45662

People people mitt just would have made everything worst then that are. In cause none of you who voted for seen all his advertise he wanted to raise taxes on people who made 23000 a year which isn't right the rich and afford to pay more taxes then the middle class can. You all are just acting this way cause his black your are also the people who put bush back in off. obama wants to do the samething that clinton did and no one bet him up about and look he got us out of what big bush did right? Right. If u as me the house and senate are both racist and that's why he can't get anything passed just think about that. Bush screwed us up and now someone has to fixs it just give the man time to. I am so ashamed to call myself an america with the way so of you r acting.

wolvesaflame
wolvesaflame

i used to be a missourian but now am in montana and all i really have to say on it is when our country was first founded george washington had this "insane idea" idea that when you enter a public office you whould no longer consider youself to be partial to any political party cus at that point in time its not about the parties its about the people and we the people need a change...why do politicians make 6 figures when the mmen and woman who built the chairs they sit in and the cars they drive and houses they live in make enough to clothe house and feed their children but at time still rest upon the ropes of foreclosure...i say suceding may not be a bad idea but i also say give the politician minimum wage just like i would have been happy for three weeks ago. WHAT happened to be for the people....If we have a problem then we should act as we are...We are the employers of our goverment so since they cant do their jobs right lets fire them all.

Natedog
Natedog

Wow seriously. Missouri wants to secede but over half of the 9,175 signatures are from out of state there's even one from Wausau, WI a small snow filled town in central wisconsin of a population of a little more than 30,000 three hours away from any big town. This town is out in the middle of the frozen tundra called Wisconsin with a language dialect worse than a southern rednecks its all yupperish mumbo jumbo and half the town is drunk around the clock hell Wisconsin alone allows a minor to be served alcohol if their parent orders it for them talk about backwards and they have a signature for the Missouri petition?... now if that isn't messed up then I don't know what is. I didn't see Wisconsin as one of the petitioning states. I was sure I'd see Arizona but heck there not even included in this and home to old bug eyed bastard called Sherrif Joe who thinks he's tuff but in reality he lives in a giant litter box called Maricopa County but hey if he wants to live in a box where my cat takes a crap then by all means. What does this mean for Missouri's petition to secede well it means that the Missourians who want to secede are cowards and should live in that cat box with Sherrif Jode I mean Joe because obviously no matter how much some of Missourians want to secede the reality of the fact is that most of them don't, which is why half of the signatures are from small towns across the country like the one from the frozen tundra called Wausau WI which I'm sure the White House will not count when they count the signatures.  So for all you Missourians that don't like being part of this great nation called America which you are obviously not a part of which under constitutional law is called treason and back in the day that was a punishment by death, which I still think should be allowed for numb nuts like yourselves; so in the meantime why don't you go to the 125 degree heat and live in that hot kitty box so our cats can crap on all of your heads. Come on now do you really think you can survive not being part of America? I have to say no due to the fact that Missouri will have to create their own government which will cost its citizens a lot of money, along with creating your own currency, healthcare systems, just to name a few. It will cost Missourians twice as much as it would cost them to stay a state. A perfect example of why stupid people shouldn't be allowed to vote as they obviously haven't thought of what the consequences of their actions are before they act. Did your mama's drop you on your heads one to many times or are you just that stupid. 

Terry Burk
Terry Burk

How about we split the country down the middle. We will give the uneducated government dependent democrats 1/2 and the educated, politically knowledgeable, hard working republicans 1/2. Then we we will see who succeeds and who declares bankruptcy.

Terry Burk
Terry Burk

So you are a racist Jean? Where did you get this nonsensical comment? Another uneducated liberal spouting at the the mouth.

Steve Mincer
Steve Mincer

"Things like this make me embarrassed to admit I live in this state." well, you're totally welcome to leave. for now.

Steve Mincer
Steve Mincer

"Racism still alive and crazy I see" no, it's called "not flushing money down the drain on green energy jobs". remember solyndra?

Josh Goodman
Josh Goodman

Cut off the money to the welfare states and Bonqufia going to have to work for her money. Watch it all come crumbling to the ground.

Terry Burk
Terry Burk

Notice how all of the states that aren't filing for secession are the democratic controlled bankrupt states...Hmmm it makes you wonder who is crazy.

Sarah Beck
Sarah Beck

Wow I thought the crazies came out after the 08 election. I have a feeling we haven't seen anything yet.

Jason Goad
Jason Goad

Yes, let's forget all the positives of belonging to the greatest nation in the world. Just because our guy didn't win the Presidential race. The fact that these idiots have the freedom to express their stupidity out loud should only serve as proof that this is a great country. In other countries if you were to sign a petition like this. The government would kill you and your family without a second thought.

Daniel Reyna
Daniel Reyna

How about we segregate St. Louis? The reddies can have beautiful downtown Arnold & everything southwest. Hell we'll even through in South County Mall.

Terry Burk
Terry Burk

If they secede I will be happy to move from Illinois (land of the corrupt Chicago libtards). At least Missouri was smart enough to vote against the socialist.

Robert Winkelmann
Robert Winkelmann

Rebecca...I call it Hickville and I already do pretend they don't exist.

megarock
megarock

Dear Republicans - it is this kind of stupidity that has brought so many people to the point where no one wants to even considering supporting you people any more. The hatred that has come from the right the past few days have brought me to make you this offer: I will help you pack AND move to the country of your choice. How about heading south and creating your little hellhole in Costa Rica with Rush Limbaugh or head north with Ted Nugent. I know how disappointing it is to live in a country where people are free not to be forced to follow the right wing lunacy of conspiracy theories, racist comments, hatred, women bashing, poor bashing, union bashing, Hollywood bashing, Mexican bashing, worker bashing crap. Apparently the only people that still agree with the GOP are angry old white men and once they die off I guess it's dawned on you all that your party is dying and the only way to keep it alive is to kidnap the entire state of Missouri and force us to live under your rules.Get the hell out of my country and don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out. You want to create a Republican state...do it elsewhere. 

George Sladek
George Sladek

THE FIRST PUBLIC STATEMENT FROM OBAMA WAS "I'M GONNA RAISE YOUR TAXES"...NOW ISN'T THAT GOING TO UPSET REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS?...THAT'S WHOEVER YOU VOTED FOR, ISN'T IT?...MAYBE HE CAN LEARN A LITTLE PUBLIC RELATIONS...THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT DON'T CARE ARE THE ONES NOT PAY TAXES IN THE FIRST PLACE...

Robert Winkelmann
Robert Winkelmann

Wow, the Repugs sure are upset about their guy getting whooped like a RED headed stepchild, aren't they. Got a better idea - how about they all pack up and head to Costa Rica with Rush Limbaugh or Canada with Ted Nugent? I'll even help them pack because they're acting like a bunch of babies now.

aluminumken
aluminumken

My wife & I lived in New Orleans in the early 60's.  We saw the same type angry people standing and shouting racial epitaphs at 6-7 year old black children as they were entering the white elementary schools.  Thank heavens in another generation or so these "American Nazi's"  and their hatreds will end up taking their "dirt naps" and we'll be able to establish a little more human decency in our society.

Cincinnatus
Cincinnatus

States no longer have the right to "secede" since the 14th Amendment. And a "petition" from one small group can't be binding, in any case - it would haveto be a unanimous decision on the part of all ... waste of time/print/effort.

tmac904
tmac904

This is just shameful. I wholeheartedly agree julieric14.  They need to get over themselves and move to another country.  

 

julieric14
julieric14

Wow...seriously? Move to another country if you don't respect your President or America. Get over yourselves...you think you can do better on your own?! What is wrong with these people? What I cannot understand is why the last four years with our President was ok but now that he's reelected you want out? Someone please explain this to me, im serious. Our forefathers are rolling over in their graves right about now. We the people of the UNITED states, not most of the people minus a few crazy lunatics! Geeze....

Mr_Walker
Mr_Walker

@jasonjmont oh because Obama has been so good about putting America first. His first four years did notthing for America at all, every Obama fan is oblivous to so much of what he has done wrong that you thought he held true to his word. He is a do nothing president and America needs positive actul change.

jasonjmont
jasonjmont

Please do not include any gramatical errors in your comment the next time you try to support any liberal views. Only conservatives can make these mistakes. @dyamond17_45662

Be_Informed
Be_Informed

 @megarock You say we live in a country where we are free, yet your man obama has ignored the will of the people by imprisoning state-legal medical marijuana manufacturers, refuses to act on gay marriage, supports the patriot act, and the NDAA. Get a clue, wake up. He's the same as bush and they are both bad for the country

JeanneWV
JeanneWV

 @julieric14  Of course, this means they will no longer get money for education, medical care, highways, etc. from the federal government. I mean, if they secede, they are no longer part of the US, right? Missouri gets much more money from the feds than they put in. Even with federal help, they are one of the poorest states in the union. Missouri would look like the slums of Calcutta if they had to rely on their own economy. 

 

Perhaps we should just let them go. :)

TooMuchHate
TooMuchHate

 @Mr_Walker Oh Mr_Walker you are oblivious to so much of what he has done right. Watch something else besides Fox News. Here let me help you out: 1. Passed the health care reform

2. Passed the stimulus

3. Passed Wall Street Reform

4. Ended the War in Iraq

5. Began drawdown of war in Afghanistan

6. Eliminated Osama bin laden

7. Turned around the US auto industry

8. Recapitalized banks

9. Repealed "don't ask, don't tell"

10. Toppled Moammar Gaddafi

11. Told Mubarak to go

12. Reversed Bush's Torture policies

13. Improved America's image abroad

14. Kicked banks out of federal student loan program, expanded pell grant spending

15. Created race to the top

16. Boosted fuel efficiency standards

17. Coordinated International response to financial crisis

18. Passed mini stimulus

19. Began "Asia" pivot

20. Increased support for Veterans

21. Tightened sanctions on Iran

22. Created conditions to begin closing dirtiest power plants

23. Passed credit card reforms

24. Eliminated catch-22 in pay equality laws

25. Protected 2 liberal seats on the US Supreme Court

26. Improved Food Safety system

27. Achieved new START treaty

28. Expanded National Service

29. Expanded wilderness & watershed protection

30. Gave the FDA power to regulate tobacco

31. Pushed federal agencies to be green leaders

32. Passed fair sentencing act

33. Trimmed & reoriented missile defense

34. Began Post-Post-9/11 Military builddown

35. Let space shuttle die & killed planned moon mission

36. Invested heavily in renewable technology

37. Crafting next-generation school tests

38. Cracked down on bad for-profit colleges

39. Improved school nutrition

40. Expanded hate crime protections

41. Avoided scandal

42. Brokered agreement for speedy compensation to victims of Gulf oil spill

43. Created recovery.gov

44. Pushed broadband coverage

45. Expanded health coverage for children

46. Recognized the dangers of carbon dioxide

47. Expanded stem cell research

48. Provided payment to wronged minority farmers

49. Helped South Sudan declare independence

50. Killed the F-22

megarock
megarock

 @Be_Informed  @megarock Please don't forget that the GOP launched the War on Drugs, NDAA was written by the GOP Congress, Bush and the GOP wrote the Patriot Act. Yes, he's a dips*it for agreeing to pass them but since the GOP was wise enough to tie military spending to NDAA and Patriot Act if we don't pass them the military shuts down - and we don't want that. But all four things you mentioned would not exist without Republicans. I do agree however that he should have vetoed both without hesitation. Even gay marriage - has to be written and passed by Congress before Obama can do a thing about it - and the GOP ain't gonna do that. Valid reasons for being angry but your anger should be directed towards Congress who are the only ones that can change this.

eslick.jordan
eslick.jordan

 @JeanneWV  @julieric14

Of course it would also mean Missouri doesn't have to pay for Obama voters to sit around all day and watch cartoons.  Missouri is not even in the bottom 10 in poorest states in the union.  Please let Missouri go, we don't enjoy being lazy pieces of you know what.  Under Obama the middle class has been sunk, losing $5000 per family.  Inflation has risen 7.5%, groceries have risen 5%, debt has increased $6 trillion, food stamps has more the doubled, and 3% of the population has been out of work for over 27 weeks and it was never above 1% during Bush.  He failed at his job and it shows that America is one of the stupidest nations in the world to have re=elected such a failed leader.  That is why we want to secede, because we would be better off.  And apparently you think you will be better off without us, which creates a win=win scenario.

jasonjmont
jasonjmont

@TooMuchHate @Mr_Walker Well said! Also at the democratic convention Bill Clinton wasn't exaggerating when he said that nobody could have fixed all the damage inflicted by Bush's eight years in office. In light of that Obama's list is impressive. I'm sick of conservatives dismissing Bush's disastrous administration and saying "forget about it".or "it's over" Hello! It was only FOUR years ago!!

eslick.jordan
eslick.jordan

@chg144 @JeanneWV @julieric14 Just keep cashing checks that on money that we earned. Spend it wisely, you should tell your friend Obama too also. I'm sure you love socialism. Oh and in response to this little 800,000 jobs lost...how come Bush's unemployment rate never exceeded 8% and Obama's just got below 8% for the first time since 2008 and due to many dropping out of the workforce. Yeah...that's what I thought.

eslick.jordan
eslick.jordan

@julieric14 Yes I believe that is all that Obama voters do. Sorry about the delay, I was at work. You wouldn't be familiar..

julieric14
julieric14

@megarock please tell me that wasn't directed towards me. I agree with you as my previous comment states. And stupid, I am not.

chg144
chg144

 @eslick.jordan  @JeanneWV  @julieric14 

 

yep, all obama voters do is sit and watch cartoons while we receive our welfare checks.  how profound, please keep going! I would love to hear more of this view you haveSometimes I need a reminder of just how ignorant people can be, so please keep going!

megarock
megarock

 @eslick.jordan  @JeanneWV  @julieric14 Really? Did you forget the 800,000 jobs a MONTH Bush was losing? When you want to cry and lie to people because this is the BS you've been brainwashed please remember this - until the day comes that Obama loses 800,000 jobs in a single month then come here with your stupidity, Until then please back your bags and leave or at least try to get an education because you're just plain stupid.

 

julieric14
julieric14

@eslick.jordan oh and Obama voters sit around watching cartoons all day? Really?! Get a clue

julieric14
julieric14

@eslick.jordan I never said I wanted these states gone, I said we should be united. Did you ever stop to think maybe the country was headed this way regardless of who gained the presidency after Bush? You cannot blame everything on one person, that's childish...go ahead, leave then if you wish. Or perhaps, you should run for President and change everything...

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