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Missouri Rep. Kathie Conway Proposes Penalty for Cities With Smoking Bans

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Opponents of smoking bans in Missouri argue that the government should not regulate the policies of private businesses. And now, Missouri State Rep. Kathie Conway has her own government proposal that she says would send that message very clearly: Punish cities that enact overreaching no-smoking ordinances. How?

Take away the tax revenue the city gets from establishments hurt by the smoking bans.

"The goal is to protect private property rights," Conway, a Republican from St. Charles, tells Daily RFT. "I just really wanted to get the conversation going."

On the latter, she's definitely had some success.

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Conway's House Bill 1021, which had a hearing last week, is pretty short and simple in its current draft form. It says:

If any political subdivision prohibits the use of tobacco in a private business...all tax revenue generated by the business through property taxes and county sales taxes shall be remitted to the local school district in lieu of the political subdivision.

In other words, if signed into law, it means local municipalities and counties would lose tax revenue if they successfully passed smoking bans.

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Representative Kathie Conway.

The bill has nothing to do with her opinion on smoking, she says.

"I just want to be absolutely clear," she tells us, "I disagree with smoking. I think smoking is a bad thing to do. I'm not promoting tobacco."

What she is promoting is the rights of private businesses to allow this kind of activity on their premises if they choose, she says.

Since it got attention last week, opponents -- including cities interested in smoking bans and anti-smoking advocacy groups -- have argued that it's a misguided attempt to punish cities working to improve public health.

Redirecting that tax revenue, critics say, would hurt municipal services and thus negatively impact all residents of a city with a ban.

Continue for details on Rep. Conway's latest revisions to the bill and the full proposal.



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montellclary
montellclary

rights of the business owner! if i had a bar,i would allow smoking in it!

tripjet1000
tripjet1000

Another WHORE for the CRIMINAL TOBACCO PUSHERS! BOOT THE BITCH OUT, NOW!

tripjet1000
tripjet1000

Another WHORE for the CRIMINAL TOBACCO PUSHERS! BOOT THE BITCH OUT, NOW!

Justice Rising
Justice Rising

if private businesses ahve not been manipulated in supporting the non smoking ban it would be ok. but it they have been they can just take a damn hike.

Diane Matthews-Longenecker
Diane Matthews-Longenecker

Evidentally Rep. Conway has never dealt with serious respiratory issues or lung cancer hitting her family. Clean air is necessary for a healthy life.

illinoisboy
illinoisboy

I am a longtime Republican Conservative and Business owner and I stand against this lame, crazy and Tobacco Company backed proposal.

Ronni Smith
Ronni Smith

I have an accounting business with clients in the entertainment industry who have experienced smoking bans in their municipalities. I have seen the revenue figures before and after smoking bans took effect. Customers will go where they are comfortable and taken care of, even if that means staying at home. Business owners just lose that revenue.

Steven Simpson-Black
Steven Simpson-Black

If this is about the rights of businesses, then why do we have food and health inspections? Can't believe you're all debating this over there still. I LOVE that we passed this hear years ago and also LOVE how it has not hurt business in the slightest. In fact, a lot of restaurants are doing better because seats that otherwise would be occupied by a smoker are being freed up for the next customer. A smoker sitting after a meal does not make a business money.

Rande Hackmann
Rande Hackmann

Drinking isn't bad, drinking too excess is bad. Glass of wine of day is good for your health.

Rande Hackmann
Rande Hackmann

And they should do away with those pesky health inspections too! If a restaurant/bar wants to serve rancid meat and the customer can't take it that's their fault, not the restaurants.

Jessica Kruse
Jessica Kruse

i myself and most i know avoid places that allow smoking inside. that being said it seems businesses that are smoke free should be thriving. face it smokers your pollution is not wanted in the lungs of others. instead of fighting for the right to smoke.... why not fight for your life and quit filling yourselves full of cancer!?!?

Ben Potter
Ben Potter

@mark I don't buy the logic that it's my problem, my preference, etc. Secondhand smoke is a well-established health risk. Businesses do NOT have the right to run their business as they see fit. There are extensive health and safety codes that regulate food handling/storage/prep, employee hygiene and so on. How is this any different?

Dan Kelemen
Dan Kelemen

Show me the stats that show these places are losing money. Everyplace I go I notice the places just as busy as before. Show me proof these places are shutting down because of no smoking and not just because the place is garbage.

Ed Lomax
Ed Lomax

hELL UP ABoUT em!!!!! Tired of being persecuted for consuming a LEGAL product!!!!!

Ed Lomax
Ed Lomax

Make cigarettes ILLEGAL OR SHUT THEH

Tori Schubert
Tori Schubert

I'm not a smoker and I don't like breathing in second hand smoke or smelling like an ashtray, having said that, I choose where I want to spend my time and if it is a smoking establishment then I won't go there, it should be up to the business owner to decide, not the goverment who is not paying the bills for the business owner

Mark Bland
Mark Bland

@ben yours is my favorite. This I am the most listened to MOD/LIB in the Midwest. I am as energy conservation and exercise loving as the best of them. BUT, a person who owns a business should have the right to handle their business as they see right. If they want smoking, it's their choice. If you really love their food or atmosphere, then you should be willing to deal with the atmosphere they present. They didn't start the company to make Ben happy, they started it to provide their food and atmosphere in the hopes it would make money. We all understand that smoke stinks, secondhand and all that blah blah blah. We are smart, and if we don't want to be affected by it, we don't patronize those places.

Mary Christine Watson
Mary Christine Watson

I do not support them in bars, or sports bar restaurants. Those business owners will lose their shirts if that is the case.

Jackie Ross Flaum
Jackie Ross Flaum

Smoking ought to be illegal anywhere. Nothing but perhaps obesity contributes more to health problems. I do not hold with guns but every time I see a smoker I just want to hand them a gun and say, if you want to commit suicide do the job right. Meanwhile, keep your nasty smoke out of my way. Phew...

Dena Pedersen
Dena Pedersen

Fully agree w Joann Milanowski! I could NOT say it better myself!!!!!!! MANY small bars or sports bar type operations are closing down due to the loss of revenue, because of these bans....if you smoke or do not smoke....this does effect all of us. That is all our economy needs more businesses closing and more people out of work!!!!! Drop bans....we are all adults and should act that way. If you do not like a smoking environment, do not go there,simple as that!

Josh Sansoucie
Josh Sansoucie

You put it out there pal,its prolly best to just step down. You put a direct name to it,being mine so deal with it. As much as you did not appreciate myreply, I did not appreciate my name being set out there. This is not a matter of calling names out,but a simple debate. Stand down kid,stand down. I can go all day,so let us leave it alone. Nice to meet you by the way.

Jim Dusenberry
Jim Dusenberry

@josh-not calling anyone out- just calling it like it is. Good day to you as well sir. And since you don't know me please don't presume to know anything about my vices or lack thereof k?

Ronnie J. Weber
Ronnie J. Weber

After living in California for 8 years I have gotten used to having to go outside to smoke, returning to St.Louis and being given an ashtray at a restaurant really threw me off. Ban it..we smokers will adjust to it in time.

Mike Fiedler
Mike Fiedler

I feel that the business should have the right to choose. If there are so many people that don't want the smoke, then businesses that impose no smoking on their own should thrive well.

Josh Sansoucie
Josh Sansoucie

@ Jim, no need in calling folks out,but since you did I'm guessing your vice goes in a mouth also. However,that is your right sir. Good day to you.

Jim Dusenberry
Jim Dusenberry

It is soooo awesome to be able to go out for dinner or drinks or dancing-whatever-and come home NOT reeking of smoke!! So ya! I support smoking bans. If you want to pollute your own lungs fine-just stay away from mine! I'd like to see it taken one step further and ban smoking within thirty feet of a public building-so you don't have to walk through a cloud of smoke walking in from all the smokers flocking outside....

Kirin Pax
Kirin Pax

I think smoking bans are dumb. If a restaurant is separated and has proper ventilation it won't even matter to the non smoking section. I know many businesses that lost money when smoking bans went into effect because the smokers went elsewhere.

Beth Blenden Kyd
Beth Blenden Kyd

I was just going to say that Joann, there could easily be BOTH types of places. Smoking, no smoking, even places that support someone who is alcohol-free, like me.

Joann Milanowski
Joann Milanowski

Honestly, it should be left up the business owner paying the bills and trying to make ends meet. If the owner decides to open his/her business to smokers, it should be posted as such and customers can make their decision to patronize that business or not based upon their choice.

Jim Descher
Jim Descher

@josh. My vices don't go straight into your lungs. That's the difference.

montellclary
montellclary

@tripjet1000 ummmyou make them sound illegal,i say it should be up to the business owner if they want smoking there or not.

montellclary
montellclary

@Diane Matthews-Longenecker all she's doing is standing up for the private business owner. you don't like smoking..don't go there!

montellclary
montellclary

@Ben Potter businesses DON'T have a right to run their business they way they see fit? well,i guess these days they don't.

ILLEGALTOBACCO
ILLEGALTOBACCO

@Ed Lomax Tobacco is ALREADY an ILLEGAL DRUG: it is ILLEGAL to POISON people, no matter how slowly you do it!

montellclary
montellclary

@Jackie Ross Flaum illegal. yeah,right. good luck with that. would only cause more crime.

montellclary
montellclary

@Dena Pedersen simplicity? these days? ha!

ILLEGALTOBACCO
ILLEGALTOBACCO

@Mike Fiedler Yes, let's let these "businesses" decide if they can serve unsafe food, etc., too. You are wrong, wrong, wrong.

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