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Rebuttal: 10 Reasons St. Louis Hates Outsiders

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Yesterday, we published a list of the top ten most common complaints from St. Louis transplants inspired by a New York Times op-ed from an outsider who says she slowly grew to love the Midwest. That writer touched on some of the frequent criticisms from non-natives: It's hard to make friends. Provel cheese is disgusting. The drivers suck here...and on and on.

Readers have offered a range of passionate responses to our list -- some who argue it is pretty tough for transplants to fit in here, and others who think this sort of whining is unmerited and annoying. And in the latter category, we have a handful of RFT staffers and long-time St. Louisans who want to offer a formal rebuttal to the laments of transplants.

So, ladies and gentlemen, we now present to you the official Riverfront Times' response to these typical complaints, a.k.a. our top ten reasons why you outsiders really get on our nerves, sometimes!

See also:
- Top 10 Reasons Transplants Criticize St. Louis
- St. Louis Rules, Kansas City Drools
- 25 Reasons to Love Summer in St. Louis

If you're a St. Louisan with an even better rebuttal -- or an outsider with a rebuttal to our rebuttal below -- make some noise in the comments section!

10. Just STOP talking about Provel

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Provel cheese (in a plastic Easter egg).

Enough with the pizza already. We get it. You don't like it? Don't eat it. You don't hear us going off on Rice-A-Roni all the time, do you?


9. You pronounce "Gravois" all wrong!

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Gravois Park.

You sound like one of those overenunciating news anchors when you say "Gravois." How come you don't pronounce "Illinois" the same way, Frenchy?


8. Your high school name sounds suspiciously fake

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RFT

That's all we've got to say about you not liking our little question.

Continue for more of RFT's rebuttal to St. Louis transplants.



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Brandywine Andrews Kopatich
Brandywine Andrews Kopatich

Give me a break...seriously this is a negative article and no need. It is life people move this is normal. Find something elsw to complain about and write about. All it does is make STL look rude and I tolerant to differences.

Marion Adams
Marion Adams

Funny. In the 16 years that I have been living here I have found that more Saint Louis born people mis-pronounce Gravois, enunciating the "s".

Marc Dangerfield
Marc Dangerfield

That is because this is one of the most self loathing places in this country. The citizens love to hate their city. Then complain that others don't like it, too. I say, if you don't love yourself who else will, or can.

Louis Kline
Louis Kline

The folks at the RFT are too busy feeling important for working at the RFT to like anything but the RFT. I once interviewed for a job there and the interview made me not want to deal with the elitist snobs I dealt with from the moment I began the process till the moment I declined the second interview. Dan Savage is the only part of the paper worth reading for as long as I can remember. Only because his humor is pretty decent & the people writing in for advice are finally getting something other than Dear Abby, that officious pompous ass.

Michael Funke
Michael Funke

Do they have coke, pop, or soda machines where you are from? :)

Jim Gibbons
Jim Gibbons

It's called laughing at yourself, which is great for character depth. Of course RFT likes STL--why else would they spend so much time promoting the city?

Sara Irvin
Sara Irvin

Goethe Ave. Knock yourselves out.

Amber Moser
Amber Moser

I'm sick of Jungermann not being pronounced YOUNGERmann.

Laura Dee
Laura Dee

That's just because Charlee Soffer - St Louis Superman was too busy at the stadium to deal with bar fights. Sorry.

Couch Pig
Couch Pig

We see how you treat us cubs fans when we visit you dump beer on us and start fights with us for the clothes we wear..

Ray Plummer
Ray Plummer

No problem. I grew up in Western New York. "Albion" was another town with a odd town because it sounded like Ëlbëein". "Rochester" is another town that many people can't pronounce properly either.

Laura Dee
Laura Dee

Try pronouncing "Poughkeepsie"! It's in NY. They hate outsiders, too! lol

Justin N Rachel Hager
Justin N Rachel Hager

It would make sense for more people in stl to try to learn French. Everything here is in French yet no one pronounces it correctly, including the name of the city.

Laura Dee
Laura Dee

Does anyone who works at RFT actually LIKE this city? What is your deal with "reporting" all this awful stuff about our city? And I'd have to totally disagree that we don't like outsiders. This city is known for being OVER-eager to have visitors, but none ever coming. We love tourists and transplants here. We have traditions and things about our city that outsiders don't know about or understand at first, but so does EVERY city. I mean-- why the hell do people from Pittsburgh call rubber bands "elastics"?? So weird. They must hate outsiders since an outsider would have no idea what they were talking about if they went there looking for rubber bands. smh.

Ray Plummer
Ray Plummer

St. Louis isn't the only place that has names that other people can't pronounce. Living in Hawaii was a real challenge when it came to pronouncing some of the cities and street names . “Aiea" is pronounced "ah ee ay ah." “Kapiolani" is pronounced "kah pee oh lah nee." “Likelike Highway” is pronounced “Lee Kay Lee Kay Highway”

Ed Chris Bender
Ed Chris Bender

walgreens pharmacy automated line pronounces Gravois...Graveeeos.

ella.becker8
ella.becker8

Yeah, you just made the transplant's point. This sounds snipey, and ... yeah, ridiculous. Screaming we're welcoming by listing the ways that transplants ruined your life is not the way to get it done. Jokes can be funny. This is an insult to everyone.

rrebeccae
rrebeccae

Hey I moved from St Louis to Alabama does this mean when I come to visit I will get snubbed? I sure hope not I still consider St Louis home :)

68chimera
68chimera

wow - some seriously thin-skinned people on here.  Take a joke people.  Jeez.

malwarednb
malwarednb

I'm leaving this city and not looking back this weekend. YAY!  Articles like this remind me why. 

poppa.bruns
poppa.bruns

I don't think it's that we *dislike* folks from elsewhere, it's that they don't fit into our hometown-centered worldview. We just don't know what to make of anyone else. My wife is a creative, fun and witty person. BUT she's an Arkansan, who lives in Fenton, and works in Union. It's a wonder she has ANY friends!

Neil Aimaro
Neil Aimaro

Funny one of the things I listed that were wrong with STL was the crime and now today I see there has been an outbreak in violence in the city......I rest my case.

Neil Aimaro
Neil Aimaro

Yea never change anything cause everything is perfect right? Grow up!

Bill Hughes
Bill Hughes

If their company paid for the move, stop whining. If you loaded-up the pickup truck, you should be shot & killed at a South Side tavern.

Lena May
Lena May

Bye bye RFT, I won't be following you anymore!

michaeljdeckard
michaeljdeckard

You should be ashamed for publishing this. It sounds like it was written by a bitchy 5th grader with a Napoleon complex. Terrible, terrible stuff. 

EDIT: This almost reads as if it were written by Amy from Amy's Baking Company. 

Richard Kyles
Richard Kyles

if some one was paid to do this they should be pulled into the middle of of 64 at 5pm and blindfolded, and the person who signed the check should just be shot.

Mikey Wehling
Mikey Wehling

in the end RFT win again, this crap is just published to increase traffic on their website, which sells advertising.

Daniel Sexauer
Daniel Sexauer

Lame. Aren't we trying to grow the city? Articles like this do nothing to help that.

Couch Pig
Couch Pig

And that is why no one likes st louisians they are stubborn and cant accept criticism.. as a well traveled native I realize this is one of the worst places in the us to live and the 15 shooting last night should be a good example why

smdrpepper
smdrpepper

Oh this was funny!  I still stand by my comment from yesterday though.  The city is not particularly nice to outsiders, even those who once lived there.

And I still love the pizza.

Marita Donalds
Marita Donalds

I wrote 2 long comments. Much more complimentary than not. Or so I thought. For some reason, they dissappear right in the middle towards end of comment. Never happened to me before. Odd .......

Matt Madden
Matt Madden

We all know the bad drivers here come from the other side of the river anyway. ;)

jaco1175
jaco1175 topcommenter

@Couch Pig I would agree but I have a suspicion that the cock smoker who wrote this doesn't even fucking live here.

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