Rebuttal: 10 Reasons St. Louis Hates Outsiders

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Yesterday, we published a list of the top ten most common complaints from St. Louis transplants inspired by a New York Times op-ed from an outsider who says she slowly grew to love the Midwest. That writer touched on some of the frequent criticisms from non-natives: It's hard to make friends. Provel cheese is disgusting. The drivers suck here...and on and on.

Readers have offered a range of passionate responses to our list -- some who argue it is pretty tough for transplants to fit in here, and others who think this sort of whining is unmerited and annoying. And in the latter category, we have a handful of RFT staffers and long-time St. Louisans who want to offer a formal rebuttal to the laments of transplants.

So, ladies and gentlemen, we now present to you the official Riverfront Times' response to these typical complaints, a.k.a. our top ten reasons why you outsiders really get on our nerves, sometimes!

See also:
- Top 10 Reasons Transplants Criticize St. Louis
- St. Louis Rules, Kansas City Drools
- 25 Reasons to Love Summer in St. Louis

If you're a St. Louisan with an even better rebuttal -- or an outsider with a rebuttal to our rebuttal below -- make some noise in the comments section!

10. Just STOP talking about Provel

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Provel cheese (in a plastic Easter egg).

Enough with the pizza already. We get it. You don't like it? Don't eat it. You don't hear us going off on Rice-A-Roni all the time, do you?


9. You pronounce "Gravois" all wrong!

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Gravois Park.

You sound like one of those overenunciating news anchors when you say "Gravois." How come you don't pronounce "Illinois" the same way, Frenchy?


8. Your high school name sounds suspiciously fake

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That's all we've got to say about you not liking our little question.

Continue for more of RFT's rebuttal to St. Louis transplants.


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73 comments
ella.becker8
ella.becker8

Yeah, you just made the transplant's point. This sounds snipey, and ... yeah, ridiculous. Screaming we're welcoming by listing the ways that transplants ruined your life is not the way to get it done. Jokes can be funny. This is an insult to everyone.

rrebeccae
rrebeccae

Hey I moved from St Louis to Alabama does this mean when I come to visit I will get snubbed? I sure hope not I still consider St Louis home :)

68chimera
68chimera

wow - some seriously thin-skinned people on here.  Take a joke people.  Jeez.

malwarednb
malwarednb

I'm leaving this city and not looking back this weekend. YAY!  Articles like this remind me why. 

poppa.bruns
poppa.bruns

I don't think it's that we *dislike* folks from elsewhere, it's that they don't fit into our hometown-centered worldview. We just don't know what to make of anyone else. My wife is a creative, fun and witty person. BUT she's an Arkansan, who lives in Fenton, and works in Union. It's a wonder she has ANY friends!

Neil Aimaro
Neil Aimaro

Funny one of the things I listed that were wrong with STL was the crime and now today I see there has been an outbreak in violence in the city......I rest my case.

Neil Aimaro
Neil Aimaro

Yea never change anything cause everything is perfect right? Grow up!

Bill Hughes
Bill Hughes

If their company paid for the move, stop whining. If you loaded-up the pickup truck, you should be shot & killed at a South Side tavern.

Lena May
Lena May

Bye bye RFT, I won't be following you anymore!

michaeljdeckard
michaeljdeckard

You should be ashamed for publishing this. It sounds like it was written by a bitchy 5th grader with a Napoleon complex. Terrible, terrible stuff. 

EDIT: This almost reads as if it were written by Amy from Amy's Baking Company. 

Richard Kyles
Richard Kyles

if some one was paid to do this they should be pulled into the middle of of 64 at 5pm and blindfolded, and the person who signed the check should just be shot.

Mikey Wehling
Mikey Wehling

in the end RFT win again, this crap is just published to increase traffic on their website, which sells advertising.

Daniel Sexauer
Daniel Sexauer

Lame. Aren't we trying to grow the city? Articles like this do nothing to help that.

Couch Pig
Couch Pig

And that is why no one likes st louisians they are stubborn and cant accept criticism.. as a well traveled native I realize this is one of the worst places in the us to live and the 15 shooting last night should be a good example why

smdrpepper
smdrpepper topcommenter

Oh this was funny!  I still stand by my comment from yesterday though.  The city is not particularly nice to outsiders, even those who once lived there.

And I still love the pizza.

Marita Donalds
Marita Donalds

I wrote 2 long comments. Much more complimentary than not. Or so I thought. For some reason, they dissappear right in the middle towards end of comment. Never happened to me before. Odd .......

Matt Madden
Matt Madden

We all know the bad drivers here come from the other side of the river anyway. ;)

Bryan Berger
Bryan Berger

LMAOOOO Cheese, the lame ass high school question, & politics? Thats why you hate people from cities where there's actually something to do? I cant BELIEVE you didnt add your precious baseball!

Meredith Mendola
Meredith Mendola

I love how the RFT claims it came up with a list "inspired by the NY Times piece" when in reality you completely re-hashed it, point for point.

browneyedbaby60
browneyedbaby60

How did we go from common complaints from outsiders to top 10 reasons St. Louis HATES outsiders?  Hate is a strong word, my friends.  Congratulations on stirring up trouble where none existed.  If that's the only way you can obtain readers.....that's pathetic.  I'm a transplant and my only complaint about St. Louis is RFT.

sauce
sauce

Was this written by a 12 year old? 

James R Johnson
James R Johnson

I'm a transplant and I love this city, it is my new home town. But I will say this on the things transplants say #11 Half ass rebuttals!

Bryan Pollard
Bryan Pollard

See what happens when people who can't write comedy do so anyway? Now you got a bunch of people all needing fresh pads because they think you insulted their cousin that moved here from fucking Moose Jaw. . Actually ya know what? Screw outsiders. Especially Ponyboy. Motherfucker got Johnny wrapped up in that shit and now him and Dally are pushing daisys.

Nick Bankhead
Nick Bankhead

You are not "The Onion." Please, fucking stop it.

Jazmin Victoria Shipley
Jazmin Victoria Shipley

Hmmm. The only thing I have to say as a transplant who has now lived here most of my adult life is that people are terrible drivers out in St. Charles county. The most egregious of which is driving in the merge/exit lane and not getting off the highway for MILES but still denying me the chance to merge.

Bree Dunsworth
Bree Dunsworth

It was a failed attempt at humor... But I do agree with #4! ... Yet another RFT disappointment.

Mia Snell
Mia Snell

Do you really think its funny? I mean, write a joke response, sure, but at least include some actual comedy.

Thee Lovingcup
Thee Lovingcup

The obvious, is that this article is not serious.

Sam Snelling
Sam Snelling

The RFT is a lot like other alternative new magazines all over the country. Generally uninformative, occasionally funny, sometimes revealing but mostly a waste of time.

Mia Snell
Mia Snell

Sam, you may be right. But sadly, people will take it seriously and rally around it. When you have a public platform, you can reach out to try and help the situation or you can flame the fire. The RFT is notorious for publishing trash articles that serve only to whip people into a frenzy. They had a chance to help bridge the gap and instead they add to the problem.

Sam Snelling
Sam Snelling

I think a collective prescription of xanax would go a long way sometimes.

Michael Allen
Michael Allen

Goddammit, stop stirring the pot with juvenile shit like this. We're never going to be taken seriously as a major city until we exhibit pride in our hometown without copping some exclusionary attitude. The RFT has taken a nosedive in the last couple years; you used to be the high-minded alternative to the Post, but now you just revel in crime statistics and mudslinging. What the hell happened?

Francis Horton
Francis Horton

I'm sure it wasn't. But the people on the St. Louis reddit got their panties in a bunch over it, which has been sort of hilarious

Sam Snelling
Sam Snelling

I don't know, seems like a lot of people are angry about this. I thought it was an attempt at humor. Most of it was bad, but I didn't once think it was meant as a real "rebuttal".

discordianslip
discordianslip

The only good things in St. Louis are Provel and Schlafly, and you don't even deserve them.

Paul Mealus
Paul Mealus

Oh look it's that person that points out the obvious!

jaco1175
jaco1175 topcommenter

@Couch Pig I would agree but I have a suspicion that the cock smoker who wrote this doesn't even fucking live here.

leesadiva1
leesadiva1

@Jazmin Victoria Downing As a transplant, your mistake was moving to St. Charles County. ;)

browneyedbaby60
browneyedbaby60

@Mia Snell  Well said.  Negativity sells rags like RFT & Post Dispatch.  Wish they'd quit wasting the trees.

jaco1175
jaco1175 topcommenter

@Michael Allen Ray Hartman sold out to the Village voice years ago and VIllage voice sold out last year to a Denver based group of dickholes that have no interest in journalism, only stock options. RFT hasn't really been worth a shit for years, the only reason I still visit is that words like cockhole make it past moderation:)

browneyedbaby60
browneyedbaby60

@Michelle Stickford Webber   I was thinking of a different word but it still had s and t in it.

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