Cardinals No Longer Etching Christian Symbols On Mound, "Not Club Policy," Manager Says

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Vines' original letter:

Derrick Goold wrote a piece in StLToday.com (June 23, 2013) about a Christian cross etched into the dirt of the pitcher's mound at Busch Stadium. It was I who called attention to the cross, along with what I took to be the image of something commonly known as the "Jesus fish" also scratched into the mound. Goold says that the latter is the number "6", a tribute to Stan Musial. If so, it's a very oddly shaped "6" (see attached photo) and, considering its proximity to the cross, would seem to be serving a dual purpose.

Goold lead his piece with the headline "Mound Tribute," as if there were nothing inappropriate about displaying religious iconography on the infield at Busch Stadium, a place of hallowed ground not just for Christians, but for Cardinal fans of all religions, including none at all.

And there's this to consider. According to the Post (http://bit.ly/1caTLMW), team owners are the beneficiaries of ticket and real estate tax abatements that will save them $143 million in payments to the city over 25 years, as well as $54 million in state incentives and a $45 million county loan.

The team and stadium may be privately owned, but a they are civic institutions. Out of respect to a devoted and diverse fan base who also has some skin in the game, not to mention a diverse group of players, ownership has a responsibility and obligation to prohibit religious symbols of any kind from being placed in the field.

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Jake E. Stief
Jake E. Stief

Good god. If you can ban a cross from the stadium because it's offensive to other religions then you might as well ban cubs logos while your at it. See where I'm getting at? If you can ban a cross... A lower case 't', then any other logo or symbol is eligible to be altered or changed no matter what it stands for. I'm surprised (and glad) we were able to get away with an entire Christian night at the ball park!

James Bryan Welch
James Bryan Welch

I say let whoever is pitching do it to suit them. Remember Arthur Rhodes put his late son's initials on the mound during the post-season 2 years ago?

Don Lanier
Don Lanier

Political Correctness assumes control BAH HUMBUG

Jason Charney
Jason Charney

As if they were INTENTIONALLY doing that? I suppose next the Reddit Atheist Circlejerker will want them to remove any crosses on their chains or remove any Jesus related tattoos. As much as I dislike Christian day at the ball park, you don't see me trying to ban it.

Jessi Anderson
Jessi Anderson

Good there is no need for them on a baseball mound...why would they put them there in the first place...stupid

angelkeeper_2003
angelkeeper_2003

Really is all some people have to worry about is some religious symbols being placed on the field. Aren't there alot more important problems to worry about, I mean really. I don't get offended when I see most of the ball players wearing a cross around their neck or thanking god for that homerun they just received. Some people need to really grow up the symbols are there for the players if the players weren't saying anything then what difference does it really make. Lets see how they do on the next game.

Courtney Ringle
Courtney Ringle

I certainly hope you arent a Tebow fan. who are you to say what mixes and what doesnt? get a grip

Blake Harris
Blake Harris

Separation between church and baseball, its in the constitution..

Thomas J. Birkenmeier
Thomas J. Birkenmeier

Stupid - removing it offends Christians. Will players be banned from wearing crosses? Or making the sign of the cross before going to the plate? Or thanking God after a hit or a win. Every Christian should stay home for the next Home stand. Send a message. Let the Cardinals establish Atheists Day and see how many show up!

instlouis1
instlouis1

It is a non-issue !  I don't drink beer so maybe they need to remove all the beer ads and signs in the stadium. I don;t like Coke so maybe they should remove that advert also. Should I continue ? Maybe the players that hit a home run should be ejected and the home run disallowed when they bump their chest, point to the skies and thank their God !  You wanna change something ? Change your friggin' bitchy self--righteous self entitled buttnugget attitiude ! Last time I looked you don't own the stadium or the Cardinals. Leave sports alone, you have already F'd up just about everything else with your politically correct invasive BS !!! 


bgwilliams1978
bgwilliams1978

God, I love RFT comments sections."Why is the RFT wasting my time with these articles... Why does the RFT force me read stuff I don't care about...Why am I forced to type pointless comments on the web page whining about how nobody actually cares about these articles...Why doesn't anyone pay attention to me?"Hilarious.

Christina Toth
Christina Toth

Um I'm more concerned with the fact that we just tied the pirates for first place. Not really worried about a few symbols drawn in dirt, get a life people.

Sharon Walker
Sharon Walker

I will re-etch them into the dust on my TV. So there!

Sharon Walker
Sharon Walker

People look for any little thing to gripe about.

Jay Brandt
Jay Brandt

I'm waiting for Muslim Day at the ball park...or maybe they'll have a big Atheist Day celebration...I guess I won't hold my breath though.

Joe Harman
Joe Harman

oh, hope we didn't offend anyone

Travis Maurer
Travis Maurer

Maybe religious folks who are mad should say a prayer to reverse the decision.

JJ O'Brand
JJ O'Brand

And if the Birds go to the series, you see why people detest religion, you're a reason. I suggest a bit of reading today, The Treaty of Tripoli.

JJ O'Brand
JJ O'Brand

Yea Julie bc an omnipotent god gives a rip, if there are symbols or not.

Jenn Cole Heuer
Jenn Cole Heuer

People are funny. I'm an atheist, and I don't give a rip about things dug in dirt. Unlike the Christians, I believe there is plenty of room for everyone on this planet, even people that believe in imaginary men in the sky! :-) Can't we all just get along??

JJ O'Brand
JJ O'Brand

As a liberal, and an atheist, I wouldn't attempt or try to stop anyone from wearing a cross, etching into sand your mythical whatever's, if it helps you feel better so be it. I also am not one to request them to stop putting crosses up at accident sights where they've lost loved ones. I would like for them to pay taxes, stop diddling children, stop attempting to make the US a theocracy, stop making war, and just use the slightest bit of rational thought, although the latter would certainly crush religion to begin with. I could care less, if that silly cult symbol makes you think you're playing better, by all means.

Derek Polston
Derek Polston

just something else for someone to bitch about, it should be the policy...really what does it hurt besides some peoples insecurity. and what business is it of anyone? and I don't believe in god. if that bothers you. You have to much money and to much time. find some way to spend your time/money in a productive and helping way. And if you don't like the cross on the mound, you should throw all your money away. Because in GOD we Trust is on every piece of currency...Just throw it away....its bad for you...

Nathan Berkley
Nathan Berkley

Why is this even a thing? Do you need attention so bad that you want to stir a stick in religious bullshit? Really? Fuck off.

Dennis Gilbert
Dennis Gilbert

RFT you are so small to follow this , you defriended , bye

Steve Mincer
Steve Mincer

there's always a few bitter losers that have to burn calories ruining someone's day.

Steve Mincer
Steve Mincer

it was their house. they owned it. not whiny liberals.

Julie Brown
Julie Brown

Thanks, Riverfront Times, for your deep investigative reporting on the Cardinals cultish religious symbols. I can sleep better at night.

Christian Knobloch
Christian Knobloch

Great! Now when our boys pray for a big red W, God won't be listening!

Ryan Stufft
Ryan Stufft

Inappropriate. Faith and professional sports should not mix.

Julie Wilhelm
Julie Wilhelm

takes one person to make such a big stink out of something that , in the grand scheme, matters not. And I guess when we dont go to the world series this year, he'll get blamed big time. ; )

Bart Cohn
Bart Cohn

The dude above says he's a big Cards fan but will boycott them because they asked a groundskeeper to stop carving a cross in the mound, a cross that never appeared in the Cards 131 year history until this year? That's completely ridiculous! Boycott away, no one will miss you!

Keith Stephens
Keith Stephens

Doesnt matter really but just out of spite Id etch a penis in the mound.

Jay Brandt
Jay Brandt

It must be a war on Christianity! Not allowing them etch or erect their symbols on every inch of public space in the country! How could they!

Bill Russell
Bill Russell

Very unnecessary. I am a big cads fan and that is wrong. I will boycott them.

Clyde Rhoads
Clyde Rhoads

I say unless you're on the mound, throwing a 94mph ball, it's none of your business.

Bart Cohn
Bart Cohn

The General Manager said it was a groundskeeper doing it without permission from the Cards or MLB, and that it's not the policy of the Cards to place religious symbols throughout the stadium, so he was asked to stop. End of story.

Floyd Brookman
Floyd Brookman

Personally, I can take it, or leave it. If the pitcher wants a cross, flower or Nyan Cat on the mound, he can draw one with his cleats (rainbow optional). I really don't think the organization belongs in the spiritual business. It's a baseball stadium, not an evangelical prayer center.

Ryan Kelsey
Ryan Kelsey

It is up to the team. Not us, we get to choose wether to be fans or not. I hope it was a team decision and done in fear of the minority

Tim Howell
Tim Howell

You already put up this article a few weeks ago. Stl has bigger issues than funny symbols on the baseball field.

Sam Maiden Jr.
Sam Maiden Jr.

It was Christian Day yesterday at the ballpark. So what's the difference?

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