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Stan Musial's Grandson Brian Schwarze Hassled by Dodgers Fans

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According to (and buried way far down in) a sports column published in USA Today, Dodgers fans in Los Angeles yelled, threatened, threw popcorn at and tried to trip the grandson of Stan "The Man" Musial and his friends while they watched Games 3 and 4 of the postseason series against the Cardinals this week.

"Can you imagine that happening in St. Louis?" Brian Schwarze, 32, told the paper.

Schwarze was wearing a Musial Cardinals jersey at Dodger Stadium, and "people kept telling me, 'You better take that (expletive) thing off.'"

See also: Dispatch from Dodger Stadium: A Cardinals Fan Lost in Los Angeles

As if all this Mickey Mouse bologna weren't enough...
...now they gotta mess with the progeny of baseball's perfect warrior, who died in January.

See also: Stan Musial, Iconic Hall of Fame Cardinal, Dead at 92

It all comes down to the tradition of old-time baseball, which, as winners of eleven World Series titles with the second-best attendance stats in the game, the Cardinals espouse effortlessly.

"This is St. Louis, we have values here,'' Schwarze said. "My grandfather used to always tell me, 'This is a gentleman's game. You play the game right.'"

Los Angeles fans responded by saying:

We've reached out to Schwarze to find out more about his experience in LA -- we'll update if we hear back.

Follow Lindsay Toler on Twitter at @StLouisLindsay. E-mail the author at Lindsay.Toler@RiverfrontTimes.com.



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Josh Colyer
Josh Colyer

I'm a Dodgers fan living in St. Louis. I get hassled by Cardinals Fans almost every time I go to a Cardinals game. What's your point? Every fan base hassles the other teams fans.

Mike Connors
Mike Connors

Probably trying to sell autographs from Stan

Drew Somervell
Drew Somervell

Yes, because "Cardinal Nation" would never hassle someone who roots for another team.

kposimo
kposimo

I've been to games in LA and not all the fans are jerks. As usual, the bad behavior of a few cast a bad light on everyone. What I have no tolerance is people get on here and condone that behavior making it abundantly clear they are indeed one of the few.

mefleishman
mefleishman

I usually attend a regular season game at Dodger Stadium when the Cards play and I always wear a Cardinal hat and jersey.  Most fans are good natured but there are a few Jerks in every crowd and the playoffs tends to bring out the winning team only fans who have no manners and drink more beer than they should. This year the Cards played the Angels in Anaheim which is much closer for me and I attended along with quite a few fellow Cardinal fans.  I found the Angels fans to be respectful and their heckling in the good spirit of the game. While the Cards lost the game, a few of us Cardinal fans politely reminder the Angel fans that come October the Cards would still be playing while the Angels would not. It felt strange to root against the Angels, but it was only for a series and if the two teams ever meet in a world series the red I will be wearing will have birds on a bat on the shirt.    

gocards
gocards

I attended game 4 sporting Cardinals gear, and also felt the hate oozing from the blue stands.  We were boo-ed and harassed the first 20 minutes of arriving at our seats.  I thank goodness for the die-hard baseball fan behind us who reminded the crowd what it feels like to attend an away game.  Besides the general hatred toward outsiders, I also noticed a more subtle difference between Cardinals and Dodgers fans while in line for the lady's room.  I observed women in red saying "excuse me" and "thank you" while those in blue generally keeping to themselves or going so far as to budge people out of the way to reach the soap.  I'm proud to be a Cardinals fan, especially after watching the Cardinals fans at home give a standing ovation for a current Dodger and former Cardinal, Skip Schumaker, when he stepped up to the plate.  Baseball truly is a "gentlemen's game" in St. Louis.  

Kathy Schrenk
Kathy Schrenk

I have witnessed lots of physical and verbal abuse of Cubs fans by Cards fans.

Joanne Berry
Joanne Berry

That would never happen in St. Louis. When we were at the game my friend wished a Dodger fan good luck. The guy was clearly taken aback. Nobody gets what a great baseball town this is. We are the epitome of good sportsmanship.

billj598
billj598 topcommenter

What's that timeless saying about California, especially LA ?  "The land of Fruits and Nuts" !  How appropriate !!  Hey scumbags, we got your NFL team and a super Bowl win and now the Cards have clobbered your classless MLB team....again.  

Camille Noll
Camille Noll

They have no class. We have known this for a long time! GO CARDS!!!!!

Kathleen Wilson Griswold
Kathleen Wilson Griswold

Tweet from John Ulett, Busch PA announcer: @stluman: And the lesson we learned tonight children is....we never disrespect our opponent cause you may be inviting them to kick your ass. #stlcards

Sue Stepanek
Sue Stepanek

dodgers and their fans are getting their just desserts

Nancy Weil
Nancy Weil

A lot of people who follow particular teams aren't really baseball fans - they are fans of their teams and that's it. They don't know much about other teams or traditions or history of the sport and the players. That seems to me to make a huge difference. But I also think that it's important to not let ourselves be yanked into the hatefulness. I say this as a St. Louisan who has lived in Boston for a long time now and seen some truly reprehensible behavior and heard some truly heinous things at Fenway over the years, and who was in '04 chased off a subway train and otherwise was physically threatened multiple times just for having the temerity to wear Cardinals gear during the Series - never having uttered a word to the people who lit into me.

Jeffery Mueller
Jeffery Mueller

Oh well LA people are self centered pieces of feces that have no clue how to be normal or kind to others. let alone remember it is a game, a high priced game but, still a game.

stlougirl2009
stlougirl2009

These are the same fans who beat the crap out of the San Francisco Giants fan until he was in a coma.  This is Major League Baseball, not the World Wrestling Federation!  What a shame.

Tony Merklin
Tony Merklin

........just realized, in this particular picture, that the Harbaugh Brothers (NFL Football Coaches) have a likeness for Stan the Man......

Jane Alana Cress-Tuchmann
Jane Alana Cress-Tuchmann

Tasteless, Classless Scum.... is all I have to say, you would never ever see or hear of this in St Lou.......and to say it towards Stan The Man.....apparently they are not up on The Greats of Baseball...... Man I hope we finish off those bums tonight.....

Doug Miner
Doug Miner

Great find, Lindsay Toler! Let's win this! Tonight!

Chris Razavi
Chris Razavi

Brian was on our show "The Hook Up" on Talkstl.com and was nothing but the nicest, kindest guy. LA SUX!

Ben Green
Ben Green

You Stay Classy LA! Yes, some fans take it too far when you wear a opposing jersey into a stadium. The threatening part is the part wear it goes too far.

Austin Buse-Oberto
Austin Buse-Oberto

I didn't think people were still bickering about Bloods and Crips

Michelle K. Connolly
Michelle K. Connolly

That is the height of poor sportsmanship. American baseball has this untouchable "good sport" mentality to me. Any real fan of the game and institution of baseball cringes when this stuff happens anywhere. It is especially disurbing when it hapens to even baseball royalty. How can you call yourself a baseball fan and threaten Stan The Man's grandson? What kind of tribute is that to a great? I'm a die hard Cardinals fan--but that doesn't mean I have hate for another team. I simply love the game too much.

Angela Minor
Angela Minor

True, it is unacceptable. I just see hockey games as being really wild and physical.

Brett Swanstrom
Brett Swanstrom

sounds exactly like you're excusing the behavior. I expect plenty of verbal abuse. Not physical abuse. That's unacceptable any place or any time.

Janet Hart Loher
Janet Hart Loher

This is so sad. My husband and I actually searched out LA fans last Saturday to tell them thanks for coming to the game. Why can't we all get along? It's baseball for crying out loud!!

Angela Minor
Angela Minor

But that's a hockey game. Not excusing the behavior, but isn't that almost expected?

Lisa Corley Davis
Lisa Corley Davis

Phil Wright, if I'd have heard about this pre-rant I would have demanded it be included. F@CK LA!

Maurianna Randazzo
Maurianna Randazzo

This is seriously sickening. The scores will do the talking for us because UNLIKE LA we have class.

Brett Swanstrom
Brett Swanstrom

st louis likes to think they are special, but I got shoulder checked and food thrown at me when I was at a blues game in my blackhawks jersey. There are plenty of assholes here too.

Denise Neiman Singleton
Denise Neiman Singleton

I've been saying all along to win it for Stan. After reading this, that would be such poetic justice. WIN IT FOR STAN & STL. We're behind you Cards 100 percent!!!!!! Go Cards!!!!!!

Nichole Ann
Nichole Ann

Sooo.. we'll suspend kids from school for making a "gun" with their fingers and prosecute kids for bullying but things like this get left untouched. Funny how that works

Jeff Torbit
Jeff Torbit

Remember, these are LA Dodger fans. Who are notorious in killing people outside their stadium, provoking brawls inside the stadium especially against Giant fans, etc etc? Just google brawls at Dodger stadium. Never ever go there as an opposing fan.

Julie Berry
Julie Berry

Pretty awful, but its no worse than the regular treatment of "regular Cards fans" in LA. Even their players are jerks. But then again, how do you even compare another teams "fans" to Cardinal Nation!!

chizdippler
chizdippler

I'm about a year late, but this post makes me want to puke. No way you "actually searched out LA fans" to thank them for coming to the game. Get over yourself.

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