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Cop's "Stupid Potheads" Remarks Spark Marijuana Legalization Debate Wednesday

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Remember when that Missouri drug cop said that people who think marijuana should be legalized are a bunch of illiterate potheads who collect welfare checks?

Well, that has resulted in a debate on marijuana legalization to be held this Wednesday at the Ethical Society of St. Louis.

It all started because of a "Facebook moment" retired Missouri Drug Task Force sergeant Kevin Glaser had in October when he addressed a group of people at a town hall in Cape Girardeau, many of whom were supporters of marijuana law reform group Show-Me Cannabis. During the meeting, Glaser addressed the crowd respectfully, despite not agreeing with them. But when he got home, he said what he really thought on Facebook, which wasn't very nice:

See also: Missouri Drug Cop Says Marijuana Legalization Advocates Are Stupid Welfare-Sucking Potheads Who Probably Can't Read

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After Glaser's Facebook post was made public, Show-Me Cannabis executive director Payne challenged him to a debate in an open letter. But a debate didn't seem to interest the retired cop very much, since he felt he didn't need to defend his remarks.

"To me, Facebook's there to put your opinion on, and I wouldn't retract a word about it," he tells the Southeast Missourian.

See also: Missouri Drug Cop Who Blasted Marijuana Legalization Advocates Says He "Wouldn't Retract a Word"

But Jason Grellner of the Missouri Narcotics Officers Association -- a group that advocates for more government grants to be spent on enforcing drug laws -- said he'd stick up for keeping pot illegal.

"We believe that we have more than enough science and economics on our side to prove our point," Grellner told Daily RFT in November.

The debate will be held Wednesday, December 18 at the Ethical Society of St. Louis, 9001 Clayton Rd., at 7 p.m. It will be moderated by Fox 2's Mandy Murphy, according to Show-Me Cannabis' Facebook page.

See also: Missouri Drug Cop Accepts Challenge to Debate Show-Me Cannabis on Marijuana Prohibition

This won't be the first time Grellner and Payne squared-off on marijuana legalization. For a little taste of what to expect, see this Jaco Report clip from a debate they had in 2011:

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cannabis
cannabis

for comparison purposes, alcohol causes 2.5 million deaths (globally) per year (World Health Organization estimate) or around *35 million* deaths since Year 2000, while cannabis has caused *ZERO* deaths this century...

so tell me, which is safer??

Smok Eingspirit
Smok Eingspirit

these gay Nazis sell out our freedom for their wallets- we could have fuel for $00.98 cents a gallon

John Parker
John Parker

It's all about moderation ya know? whatever you may be doing. People drink when they shouldn't same goes for smoke. and as far as the difference between a stoner and a drunk goes, could you imagine if the legalized pot and kept booze illegal? people would be kittens by now

Susan Wolters
Susan Wolters

I'm completely sober, don't drink or smoke anything, but I am totally FOR legalization! I'd rather be around a pot smoker than a drunk ANY DAY OF THE WEEK. I am also educated, intelligent, and support myself. So there.

sweetcookies3333
sweetcookies3333

the greatest plant in the universe is almost free, LET FREEDOM RING!!!13


seems like yesterday i smoked my junior year and it was illegal everywhere..only took a year to change the law in my first vote ever, the rest is history...DOMINO!!

AMERICA'S WAR ON DRUGS IS A WAR ON AMERICANS!!!33

tribune420
tribune420

I feel sorry for the cop, he sounded so thuggish.  No one really wants him protecting them.  And he either avoided the questions, or he was not smart enough to answer them.  I wonder if he rides the short bus to work?  

Amanda Conner
Amanda Conner

But legalization would boom the economy by potential billions. I don't smoke... Because unfortunately it does give me a panic attack. But ill admit, I smoked acres of it when I was young. Dear cop, I earn more income a year than you do by a loooooonnnnnnnggggggg shot, have never received public assistance, I'm educated four times longer than the academy, I volunteer for law related charities because Im a flirt and a a kiss ass....Yes, state patrol, I have held cans for you- And I used to do it stoned. Dear God, it's just pot. Meanwhile.... There's always a cold one handy ready to go for a road soda at your local corner. I'm so sick of this failed war on drugs and jails and prisons being filled with non violent offenders. It's just so fkn stupid. I'm so over it. Frkn legalize it. Get over it. It's pot. Weed. Grass. Who fkn cares. Yawn.

mushuku
mushuku

Now, why would an individual whose personal financial interests and long-term job security depend on the perpetuation of the Drug War oppose efforts to end the prohibition of cannabis?  Gee, let me think...    

malcolmkyle16
malcolmkyle16

Some simple facts:


* Our policy regarding drugs is in the hands of frauds, liars and two bit crooks, and until they are in handcuffs, poverty will increase, injustice will prevail and perversity will rule the planet.


* In 2001, Portugal decriminalized all drugs. This has resulted in the number of people infected with HIV who are drug addicts dropping from 50 per cent to 20 per cent, and new diagnoses of HIV among addicts dropping from approximately 3,000 to below 2,000 annually. The number of drug overdose deaths declined from 400 to 290 a year between 2001 and 2006, and “problematic” drug use and drug use among adolescents has decreased. 


* Prohibitionists have always been murderous parasites: In 1926, during alcohol prohibition, the federal government began a campaign of deliberately poisoning vats of liquor with kerosene, gasoline, benzene, cadmium, iodine, zinc, mercury salts, nicotine, ether, formaldehyde, chloroform, camphor, carbolic acid, quinine, acetone, methanol, and several other deadly toxins. Estimates place the body count above 10,000.


* Illegal Drug Cartels cannot operate without the support of politicians, bureaucrats, and police officers.


* Keeping various psychoactive plants and their derivatives illegal and unregulated means robberies, home invasions, murders, broken families, shattered lives—all mostly done by law enforcement agencies. Add to that list: environmental devastation, poisoning of lands, streams and wildlife—all preventable by regulated legalization. 


* Prohibition has been a slow but relentless degradation (death by a zillion cuts) of all our cherished national and international institutions that will leave us crippled for numerous generations. 


* The US federal government is now the most dangerous and corrupt corporation on the planet; it is solely comprised of traitorous, lying hucksters who spy on us—in the MPICIC (military/police industrial corporate intelligence complex), the 99% are all probable suspects.


* In 1989, The Kerry Committee found that the United States Department of State had made payments to drug-traffickers. Concluding, that even members of the U.S. State Department, themselves, were involved in drug trafficking. Some of the payments were made even after the traffickers had been indicted by federal law enforcement agencies - or even while these traffickers were under active investigation by these same agencies.


* The involvement of the CIA in running Heroin from Vietnam, Southeast Asia and Afghanistan, and Cocaine from Central America, has been well documented, by the 1989 Kerry Committee report, academic researchers Alfred McCoy and Peter Dale Scott and the Pulitzer Prize winning journalist, Gary Webb.


* The United States jails a larger percentage of it's own citizens than any other country in the world, including those run by all the other worst totalitarian regimes, yet it has far higher use & addiction rates than most other countries.


* As with torture, prohibition is a grievous crime against humanity. If you support it, or even simply tolerate it by looking the other way while others commit it, you are an accessory to a very serious moral transgression against humanity.


* The United States re-legalized certain drug use in 1933. The drug was alcohol, and the 21st amendment re-legalized its production, distribution and sale. Both alcohol consumption and violent crime dropped immediately as a result. And very soon after, the American economy climbed out of that same prohibition engendered abyss into which it had foolishly fallen.

Don Lanier
Don Lanier

Cops need the war on drugs to get FUNDS, SIEZURES....CASH....

Alex Newell
Alex Newell

I love how he says there's no medical purposes for marijuana, and that it's like saying we have medical opium. but yet I guess he forgets about the doctors that prescribe thousands of people with tons of different illnesses or pains(some real, some not), strong opiates like oxyContin, Percocet, and morphine. those people usually become A.addicted which in turn leads them to cheaper alternatives aka heroin Or B. Into drug dealers of the prescribed pills they get....Tell me more about this medical opium that doesn't exist!

myfab9rides
myfab9rides

You can tell that PIG is a glutton for alcohol. Squirming in his seat at the thought of people being able to use herb legally. He looks and speaks of it with this discriminatory overtone, it wouldn't surprise me if he had the urge to shoot a group of friends smoking on the front porch!

Gregory Conners
Gregory Conners

How many people die from alcohol a year? How many people die from pot a year? My point exactly!

vincentjenningsforco
vincentjenningsforco

As a human rights activist, it shocks me that non-violent cannabis offenders can receive life without parole (see Jeff Mizanskey articles or google him) while very violent murderers and rapists get 20 to 30 year sentences and paroled early to walk the streets to commit more violent acts. In my opinion, cannabis should be legalized. The medical benefits alone are a reason to legalize cannabis in Missouri. As a sufferer of Aspergers Syndrome, cannabis keeps me stable and allows me to multi-task and be a more loving husband, father and grandfather. I have seen amazing results with individuals with multiple sclerosis and individuals with Adult ADHD. 

 Legalization of cannabis will allow police to focus on the real menaces of society such as domestic assault, pedophilia, "knock out gangs" and murderers. It will add enormous sales tax revenues to the state of Missouri and keep real estate, personal and income taxes down. Since it is a "sin tax", only those who partake of cannabis will be paying for the privlege of a much safer recreation than tobacco or alcohol. Legalization will shut down the illegal black market cartels and also cut down on the violent crimes associated with such cartels. Cannabis will be regulated like alcohol with no one under 21 being able to purchase it. As it stands now, the only argument that cannabis is a "gateway drug" is due to the fact that some of the black marketers have the ability to introduce harmful substances like meth or heroin to their patrons. Legalization is a win-win situation in all aspects and if anyone can find a viable logical argument why cannabis should not be legalized in Missouri, please message me on Facebook.

Did I mention that the legalization of cannabis will save Missouri taxpayers billions of dollars in not having to house and feed non-violent cannabis prisoners of the state and make room in our prisons for the true criminals of society?

kevin_hunt
kevin_hunt

Jason Grellner is a typical self-serving drug war prick.  No lie is too shameful for these monsters who only care about having authoritarian police-state CONTROL of the population. 


 In the afterlife, corrupt drug war piggies like Kevin Glaser will be smoking sausages in hell.


If the War on Drugs was a social welfare program it would have been de-funded, abolished, and never heard from again forty years ago. As it is a critical part of the police-public prosecutor complex, it will continue like some nightmarish fiscal black hole, sucking up resources endlessly, while producing nothing but more drugs, political instability, corruption in financial services, violence, and death.



Kevin Cook
Kevin Cook

"cop", sorry. I'm not high...really.

Kevin Cook
Kevin Cook

I find it interesting that this cops says he can have a glass of wine without the intent of becoming intoxicated. Why would you drink wine then? Stupid reasoning!

doublekickoriginal
doublekickoriginal

Another idiot moron cop,mr government,lol.God put it here,we will smoke it! We dont need a government to tell us what we can do with our body! Its just a big money maker along with their lieing propaganda for them.Hes a sad representative for the police organization.Why is the news all full of crooked cops? Sweep your own doorstep before you try to sweep ours,will never work in a million years!

jose257
jose257 topcommenter

Just say "No" to the drug war holocaust.


mulishamutt_13
mulishamutt_13

That fat PIG ignorANUS needs to so some real fkng research, it is obvious that BB has hired this man because of his complete incapability of reason

Shane Coats
Shane Coats

I'm being berated by the pizza delivery man!!! Case closed!!!

mlcharris19
mlcharris19

Just say yes grow your own and not pay taxes

Kenneth Lee M
Kenneth Lee M

boy I got a chuckle out of that. When you thought it was ideals in line with yours - it's justified. When I point out that users "worship" their god ... there is no place for "ideas".

Eric Farlow
Eric Farlow

Thanks for proving that point for me. Ideology has no place in this conversation.

MikeParent
MikeParent

Does anyone honestly believe that wasting $20 Billion and arresting 3/4 Million Americans annually for choosing a substance Scientifically proven to be safer than what the govt allows, is a sound policy?

Calvin Brooks
Calvin Brooks

That fat slob is only regurgitating propaganda rhetoric. His facts are based on no science whatsoever.

Billy Casagrand
Billy Casagrand

Whether a person succeeds or not is based soulfully on their personal drive. Ray Charles started dirt poor, became a piano great and used drugs, and the motherfucker was blind. Just remember stoners dont let some dick head alcoholic, cop or anyone tell you that you cant be successful because only you can dictate your fate, and only you can take yourself to the level of success you want in life.

Sisyphus Wobbly
Sisyphus Wobbly

A quick scan of his fb page shows it's pointless to talk with this cop or any friend of his. It saddens me people like him came from the same generation as my parents. I don't know what went wrong in this cops head. Brainwashing I would presume. Small town America will always be bible thumping small minded individuals. I don't think they're idiots just sadly uninformed. These people will always be what holds the rest of us back.

Kenneth Lee M
Kenneth Lee M

why can't the government tax it? Government can put HUGE taxes on it.

Kenneth Lee M
Kenneth Lee M

wasn't the court of public opinion - I was referring to.

Kurt Lee
Kurt Lee

I believe like gay marriage it's just a matter of time before weed is legalized and taxed. If they can do it with cigs and booze than they can do it with weed. Alcohol has cause MANY more problems for people I know than weed ever has.

Andy Lamont
Andy Lamont

Sorry, I don't think I can spend any more time listening to Jason Grellner before grabbing my monitor by the shoulders and shaking it. Kevin Glaser sounds even worse.

Eric Jacobs
Eric Jacobs

They will never make it legal cause most people view it as a illegal drug and the government can't tax it

Steven Arthur Vandelay
Steven Arthur Vandelay

Just another example of people using opinion instead of fact to justify prohibition. The bottom line is that humans should have the freedom to use whatever substance they choose as long as they are not infringing upon the rights/safety of others. These people seem to think that because a substance affects them (or someone they have encountered) a certain way then it has to affect everyone else that way. Their logic is fundamentally flawed in that regard. In addition, the exploration of consciousness is a basic human right and law enforcement has no business controlling it until a person becomes a danger to themselves or others. /rant

Billy Casagrand
Billy Casagrand

Hell my room mate smokes and makes more money then me.

Juel Rogers
Juel Rogers

Takes one to know one. What do the cops know have they tried smoking it? Don't knock it unless you tried it!

Billy Casagrand
Billy Casagrand

Also last time I checked what a person does in their off time is their own fuckin business its not like I walk in your house and tell you how to raise your kids, cook your food, paint your walls. I know a guy on who is dirt poor living off the system and is the laziest piece of shit out there and he doesnt do drugs. This one is for you to read Shane.

Billy Casagrand
Billy Casagrand

I am a dock worker, and i work hard and i dont smoke pot but i still believe it should be legalized, because people become nice, happy, it has proven medical use, fights pain, and if legalized and farmed properly it could help alot against the national debt and provide jobs. I would rather be around a pot head than some drunk who is acting like a piece of shit. PARTY ON SMOKERS THIS SOBER DUDE HAS YOUR BACK

Eric Farlow
Eric Farlow

You debate someone with an ideology to expose their pretense. It's not about shaping their perspective, but rather about swaying the court of public opinion.

Ryan Paluczak
Ryan Paluczak

What a wank.... Since alcohol and tobacco are legal, they are safe? I don't understand peoples thick fucking framed skulls.

MikeParent
MikeParent

Alcohol was Illegal.  Just follow the model we used after alcohol prohibition was repealed.

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