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Strippers' Lawsuit Against PT's Clubs Makes Exotic Dancing Sound Like the Worst Job Ever


Exotic Dancers' lawsuit


Follow Lindsay Toler on Twitter at @StLouisLindsay. E-mail the author at Lindsay.Toler@RiverfrontTimes.com.

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suetoo
suetoo

Since PT's posts a schedule and fines workers around $25 an hour for missing work, it's hard for them to say that these aren't employees.  If they are employees, they should make sure they at least make the minimum wage.   They also charge dancers and strippers to work there.  If a woman works 9 or 10 hours on a slow night or day and then makes $200 and has to 'tip out' $100 of it and also has to pay to work @ another $100, might have arrived late because of the snowstorm (another $25), paid a cab because she drinks at work so doesn't drive there or back ($60) it can all be a losing proposition.
For those of you commenting about how the strippers may not pay taxes, think what the club is paying.  So do you honestly think they're paying taxes on their late fines, tips and other things?  It's a lot more money than the strippers wind up with.

Nancy L Dona
Nancy L Dona

I read this last week in the "Record"....I cracked up at the name Brandy Apple....Seriously

JamesMadison
JamesMadison topcommenter

"The exotic dancing performed by [the dancers] while working at the nightclubs does not require invention, imagination or talent in a recognized field of artistic endeavor."

Those are the strippers who do not get much in the way of tips. Those with talent get the tips. That many strippers work at multiple clubs shows they are independent contractors.

James Madison
James Madison

Strippers having to claim that their job requires no special talent? Really? If they have no talent, what sort of person works for just minimum wage and no tips? Granted the tip pooling is a bad business practice. Socialism run amuck.

Djsno Stl
Djsno Stl

What would they do if all the strip clubs in the area burned down all in one night? Lol.

Stephanie Thorsten
Stephanie Thorsten

Strip clubs are nothing but legal Pimps.... Those gals could make a helluva lot more money being Escorts and keep their money to themselves.

Nicholas Koenig
Nicholas Koenig

and look who sitting at the top Micheal "SPARKLES" Ocello

Dave Forgetaboutit
Dave Forgetaboutit

I hope them strippers kept copies of them receipts for that money they made and was forced to pay. Oh wait,, strippers don't give receipts. This will get tossed out faster then a $30 lap dance.

George Acosta II
George Acosta II

Well when you have to go in the hole for 60 or 70 dollars before you even get started, for paying a stage fee, DJ fee, dressing room charge, I'd be pissed off too, those clubs are full of sleazy ass scum. The managers are bunch of low life's who take advantage of young women. Most of those asshole's couldn't get a date if you paid em. Good for the girls.

Sheri Mergenthaler
Sheri Mergenthaler

Boo hoo!! Maybe they should look for a real job instead of getting mad that they don't make enough for grinding there dirty pussy on people!! Fuck them nasty bitches.

Bridgett Huitt
Bridgett Huitt

ICK PT's is a nasty club. Got dragged to the one in centreville and I had weird shit happen to say the least...

Meredith Gulley
Meredith Gulley

They are no longer strip clubs but rather now a brothel, some girls can't make money because other girls are handing out handjobs and or blowjobs, bring back the class of these places, but club owners dont care because they get paid from these girls, most club owners are trash

Margaret Lamprich Metzing
Margaret Lamprich Metzing

I knew 2 girls that worked at PT's 7/8 years ago, both girls made over a thousand dollars in one night. They drove nice cars, always had their hair and nails done, carried expensive bags etc. They didn't have a problem with the way things ran because they were well compensated themselves. So do I feel sorry them? No. Do they understand how much less they will be making being an employee rather then an independent contractor? Probably not. Their tips will eat all the hourly wages and then some and they will owe a great deal at the end of every year filing taxes.

Tracey Pomeroy
Tracey Pomeroy

The truth is out of all the girls in one club there are a select few who make "wheel barrels" of money. What they aren't telling you is the tip out is a required amount. The managers make an ass load of money & shouldn't be tipped for giving them a job every night. Tipping is customary. Usually 10%. If you tip that much to 3 people, and then more than that to the house, then pay taxes on that, your not making much. I guarantee the Dj, the doorman, bartender aren't calming that money. The biggest thing in my mind they are fighting for is if they are independent contractors, let them have some control over what they do. I used to work at The Cabaret as a waitress 22 years ago. I've seen the way they are taken advantage of. This should have been addressed years ago.

Howard Scott Howes
Howard Scott Howes

Maybe they will spill the beans on who pays good and who does not

Steve Mincer
Steve Mincer

ohhhh... try a north las vegas one. day shift. it's like a "scared straight" for teen girls.

Ryan Paluczak
Ryan Paluczak

The most ridiculous part is the complaint about tipping people out. Without your DJ... Well, your moves aren't sexy in silence, without your door guys, you aren't protected, without your bartender, people aren't as free with their money. Begging for minimum wage is pathetic. Dancers at any club make way more than minimum wage and it's UNTAXABLE income (unless your strippers are very honest.) it's silly.

Daniel James Brandt
Daniel James Brandt

I was friends with an exotic dancer back at Bragg.. one day she had a realization from up in the DJ booth..she had a moment of clarity of what exactly was going on. It wasn't prostitution, but it was still selling your body in a way... she had a breakdown..cried.. got a job at a laundry shop... and eventually went back to the club because she made fist fulls of money there.. I'm betting the women complaining about making 'minimum wage' are also not attractive... I should file a lawsuit against a strip club for not hiring me because I'm not an attractive woman..

Todd Alan
Todd Alan

Me Thinks the should be careful what they wish for. Since most are also hookers one would think the less govt scrutiny the better

Brad Meyers
Brad Meyers

Sounds like another sugar daddy lawyer trying to get laid.

Margaret Lamprich Metzing
Margaret Lamprich Metzing

From what I know from friends who either knew people or worked in that industry the strippers/dancers pay the house to work there, I know I'll catch some hell for this but...isn't that the same as a hairdresser who rents her chair/station? It is up to her to declare tips and file her own taxes and what not. In a restaurant you tip out people who assist your job, I.e. a waitress tips the bus boys who clean her station and the bartender who made her drinks...now the waitress is an employee of the restaurant rather then renting her station but there are jobs where you rent your station or area within a business to make your own money...

Chuck Enke
Chuck Enke

UMMMM, Shut up and rub your boobs in some old guys face for a dollar.

Bigmo Gordon
Bigmo Gordon

Its frivolous ... if they want minimum wage, then all the tips they make should go to the club as club income, and they get a check every two weeks. Think about that.

Bigmo Gordon
Bigmo Gordon

If a dancer made $1000 on a Friday night in mid January. The guy outside starts her car, turns on the heat, cleans the windows, changes the oil, and been watching it all night to make sure its not vandalized by her bi-polar ex boyfriend or girlfriend ... you know what her "tip" is? She will say you should have rotated the tires, and go home.

Jameson Donaghy
Jameson Donaghy

I have to agree with Don...I don't mind the fact that stripclubs exist, but it is a crooked ass business.

Troy Woods
Troy Woods

Pay to "dance"(shaking your ass around a pole and wiggling around on someone's lap is not dancing to me). Bartenenders make their own tips! At some of the more upscale clubs, sometimes the bartenders make more than the strippers when it comes to tips. I suppose it's because a bartender doesn't have to hustle for his/her tips. The first thing guys want when they walk through the doors is a drink!

Don Barnett
Don Barnett

It's a crooked business, on all ends from 'entertainers' all the way up to management. As crooked as it gets.

Don Barnett
Don Barnett

No, you are not wrong...trouble is, they get greedy.

Christen Mariah McClintock
Christen Mariah McClintock

Why should servers have to tip out a bartender who already make their own tips plus they make an hourly wage higher than minimum in most cases?

Rebecca Eldridge
Rebecca Eldridge

I waited tables at a resteraunt for a long time. No one claims all their cash!!!

lorenx2
lorenx2

Who needs a dirty pussy when someone like Sheri has such a nasty mouth?

paperbagdoll
paperbagdoll

Sounds like someone's fiance had a little too much fun at his bachelor party...

jaco1175
jaco1175 topcommenter

Let me guess, you got pulled onto a table, took off all of your clothes and had a bunch of guys throw money at you?

lorenx2
lorenx2

You obviously don't understand what these girls are saying, still? The companies are the ones getting all the money and free employees whom the girls are the ones paying their wages for them. Not good to be an independent contractor when it comes to strip clubs and the reason is because of the owners/mgmt. taking in all that tax free income. You just don't get it?

lorenx2
lorenx2

Your point is mute, it is not the independent contractors position to pay strip bars employees all because they don't want to themselves. It IS wrong. The company SHOULD pay for the DJs, security and everything else just like EVERY other club and business out there.

lorenx2
lorenx2

Absurd, "most" are hookers, boy are you jaded?

lorenx2
lorenx2

You're high on GLUE. Tips are TIPS so that the company can even PAY JUST MIN. WAGE, and it IS ALWAYS JUST the Min. Wage, NEVER more.

lorenx2
lorenx2

If a girl "wants" the guy to start her car that's her prerogative and should tip. But trying to do as many tricks for the dancers that you can and impose yourself on the dancers to assure yourself a tip makes those guys look like desperate Brazilian monkeys trying to take the tourist money.

jaco1175
jaco1175 topcommenter

Bullshit, the way to visit these clubs is just like a buddy and myself used to do. Drive over with a case of beer in the car and get smashed in the parking lot while listening to some cardinal games. Then smoke a joint before going inside. The rest of the night when the annoying waitresses came asking if you wanted an overpriced rubbing alcohol cocktail you could just give them a shit eating grin and say 'baby I'm way too fucking stoned to drink'. 9 out of ten times they would laugh their asses off and quit bothering you.

lorenx2
lorenx2

Cuz the BT works directly with the servers, it's a tip not a wage.

lorenx2
lorenx2

Nor is it the employees job to pay other employees. 

jaco1175
jaco1175 topcommenter

@lorenx2Sorry lorenx, let me make it up to you, tell me what club you strip at and I'll come out there look at your pussy and then give you a crispy dollar bill!

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