Ballpark Village's Late Night Dress Code Basically Bans All of St. Louis

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The dress code doesn't indicate whether the long shirt rule is aimed at men, women or both.

Here's a full list of what's not allowed after 9 p.m. at FOX Sports Midwest Live!, Tengo Hambre, PBR St. Louis, the Barn at PBR, Skybox, Tengo Sed, the Lounge and the Budweiser Brew House: sleeveless shirts on men, profanity on clothing, exposed undergarments on men, sweat pants, full sweat suits, excessively long shirts, jerseys, athletic shorts, sagging pants or shorts, bandanas, and sometimes hats.

So far, the new rules aren't playing out so well in the St. Louis Twittersphere:

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marybethklingenfus
marybethklingenfus

It's really not that dramatic, people! This same company has an identical venue, "4th Street Live", here in Louisville (since 2004) with the exact same dress code. I have witnessed all sorts of clothing while there and it has also become more lenient as time has gone on. And honestly, it is more geared towards men: pants on your waist, no exposed underwear and nothing excessively ripped up. What the majority of you wear on a regular basis will be fine! Please don't ruin the excitement of this long awaited venue over some rules that are probably not going to affect you. And yes, most of the waitresses wear next to nothing but that isn't anything new. GO CARDS!

rebecca.smith
rebecca.smith

And yet, in this "family friendly" venue, waitresses wear "uniforms" that are downright slutty looking!

Gina Marciano Mitauer
Gina Marciano Mitauer

It's obviously who it's targeting, they should just say no oversized gold chains and be done with it!!!

Brandon Herges
Brandon Herges

There's absolutely nothing outrageous about any of these codes.

Oldglasslady
Oldglasslady

I am o.k. with no sleeveless shirts or hats (polite men remove their hats inside anyway) and no underwear showing - but why does this only apply to the men?  I really don't want to see some girls whale tail or bra showing either!!!   

I totally do not get the jersey though.  Tons of people wear their Cardinal gear whether they are going to a game or not.  I don't care if someones shirt is hanging down to the floor!  If they are comfortable and covered it is not a problem for anyone else. 

vance_d
vance_d

Really RFT!? All of st Louis!? I'm about %100 certain that all of st Louis doesn't wear their pants and shirts down to their knees with their underwear showing. Isn't it clear what they're trying to do? They're trying to make sure ball park village doesn't turn into the gallerie our the loop. A nice place where respectable people won't go becasue there are too many scumbags shooting, stealing, robbing, and fighting.

vance_d
vance_d

Really RFT !? "All of st Louis"?....I'm about %100 certain that all of st l wear their pants and shirts down to their knees with their underwear showing. Isn't clear what they're trying to do? They're trying to make sure ball park village doesn't turn into the gallerie or the loop. A nice place where respectable people won't go becasue They're too many scumbags shooting, robbing, stealing, and fighting.

Bryan Berger
Bryan Berger

Faggot shit. Im good on your 10 dollar burger bar.

Terry L. Black
Terry L. Black

There just trying to keep the trouble out. An you don't have to go you can wear your pants down pass your ass elsewhere.

gooftroopt5
gooftroopt5

Why not have a dress code. On game days you can go in with your jerseys I don't see a problem with this. Trying to bring up the standards of our city. God knows St Louis needs all the help it can get. Look around downtown people. I will go there. Sounds like a fun time

jbbrunneriii
jbbrunneriii

That's what happens when you have a bunch of old white baby boomers running this project.

Stanleystl LocoWilliams
Stanleystl LocoWilliams

Sadly this is what I've come to expect in this slow, segregated town...BUT..Go Cards!!!###

ut_4_me
ut_4_me topcommenter

I don't see anyone even showing up to this place outside of the 81 days (not including playoffs) that the Cardinals actually play at home.   I don't exactly see the Ballpark Village as being a hoping place on a Saturday night in February.   My predictions?   Huge crowds during Cards games and over the next few months as a tourist attraction and for locals wanting to check out the new place.  Give it a year and it will still be busy on Cardinal game days but will look like Mike Shannon's patio bar every other day of the summer.   Hours will eventually be reduced and it will become nothing more than an extension of Busch stadium.

Vinnie Watts
Vinnie Watts

Crystal, you're an idiot. Pointing out the obvious doesn't make me a racsist. Denying it is happening is what makes people like you a narrow-minded racist. But I won't judge you for that. ;-)

Mike Bobbish
Mike Bobbish

I will go once to check it out, and then see if it is for me.

schmitz5958
schmitz5958

Anyone who disagrees with ballpark village's dress code are the hoosiers themselves. There are other locations around st. louis too that require you to wear a suit and tie to enter. When locations use dress code rules, they are wanting to be an upscale location, and that I can understand. (rules apply only to off days and off season)

Lisa Haney
Lisa Haney

Alot of people her alienate other people from visiting here also.

Crystal Miles
Crystal Miles

Wow! Lower income people and blacks? Who are you? YOU are racist. "Black" and "low income" people can be classy too.. so wtf are you? "Rich"? "High income?" Your the worst of them all. There's no certain race or group of people that are all bad..

Mike Sadlo
Mike Sadlo

Some stupid rules. I understand slot of them but no hats. Who doesn't wear a hat to the game. Come on

Dennis Williams
Dennis Williams

I'm shocked! Really. But it will still be cool. With some 'Pro Rodeo Cowboy' bar(The Barn at PBR) how can it be any more HILARIOUS!!

bhall_n
bhall_n

If you are a true supporter of St.Louis, then you would favor these rules.  Finally, St.Louis is putting money into its downtown.  This is what thriving cities do. If you want a fun/new city for your kids, then it is a must, otherwise businesses go elsewhere and the population gets poorer because the lack of choice jobs. This is our chance to restore stl to the city it once was.

Phyllis Johnson Fisher
Phyllis Johnson Fisher

It's a dress code! I don't think black people own the rights to saggy pants, long shirts & ball hats, why is everyone turning this into a racial issue? If you want to spend your $$ there, you will go by their rules whatever race you claim to be! Let's just all get along & :) ...Please

Tina Addison
Tina Addison

I agree with the dress code. It does state "except for during major sports events" so other than hats jerseys may still be worn during sporting events. I dont think people need to be wearing the "sagging" style anyway. I think its all within reason. It isnt "banning all of St Louis with the dress code" , it's simply keeping gang affiliations and sagging out and keeping some class about it. All of St Louis doesn't dress in such a way that would be banned. We should be setting a good example anyway.

Brantner Cook
Brantner Cook

GoCardinals 2014Champions...can't wait for y'all to come play the Angels ( Freese & Pujols ) I will be there representing #CardinalsNation

John Bentley
John Bentley

A real American psycho here in STL never..

Melissa Ann Weber
Melissa Ann Weber

If people read the article they allow jerseys on game day/night. Personally, what is the deal?? Dress with some class.. We are adults.. We are not children anymore. And if people had some class their wouldn't be a dress code.

cmlouisusa
cmlouisusa

Except for the Cardinals Museum, it's just big-box corporate crap-why not

just back-in aP.F Chang's and call it a day? 

Michael Schmidt
Michael Schmidt

I'm excited about all the female undergarments that will be legally on display! Is reverse sexism a thing?

Bonnie Inniss
Bonnie Inniss

Mr. Keller, Your self esteem must be nonexistant since you have to "brag" about what you wear and where you live. BTW...."classy" people don't show their money. Sir...you have a Napoleon complex......A peronality complex that consists of power trips and false machismo to make up for short height and/or feelings of inferiority.

Valerie Perrotta Klipfel
Valerie Perrotta Klipfel

Good. Sounds like it will be a nice place. Maybe there should be an exception for jerseys on game nights only.

John Lister
John Lister

Are you sure The Onion didn't write these rules?

Roxie Gioia
Roxie Gioia

You dont think they spent all that money to have no rules....sorta like no smoking in an open stadium....

Nicholas Kuda
Nicholas Kuda

This is ridiculous "WE ARE CARDINAL NATION" No Jerseys, No Hats... Really? Sounds pretty stupid especially when the best fans in baseball helped to make this Ballpark Village a reality. We are proud of our Cardinals. Guess I will not be visiting Ballpark Village!!! This is crazy!!

jwtf924
jwtf924

Do any of you retards read? On game nights jerseys are fine. Who the fuck goes to a bar in a jersey any other time then a game night? The rest of it is just saying dress like an adult, not a teenager, shirts with profanity? That was cool...never.

Good grief grow up. Half of you will never go to a place like this after 9pm on a mon game night anyway, you'll go in these places during the day and evening, eat dinner and leave when 90% of these rules don't apply.

otcboy
otcboy

@Oldglasslady  so, all orthodox Jewish men are not polite? what about ones undergoing chemotherapy and choose to wear a hat, then?

mzkmsjr
mzkmsjr

What about over weight people who have to wear shirts that go past their finger tips? What about insecure bald people or recovery cancer paients who wear hats? And be realistic fighting at a bar is gonna happen, robberies are gonna happen. You need to be realistic.

loraina69
loraina69

Other places that received tax money?

rebecca.klenke
rebecca.klenke

@jwtf924  Uncool calling people "retards." I'll begin there. But these are bars, not exclusive country club restaurants. It seems like overkill to enforce such stringent codes of fashion conduct. Why do you assume that people who aren't supportive of the dress code and who are commenting on here aren't going to be going to these establishments during dress code enforcement hours? Also, people are concerned that's it's adversely impacting minority communities. 

lovethelou
lovethelou

@otcboy @Oldglassladyall orthodox Jews do not wear the shtreimel, those that do don't wear it all the time.  Wearing a kippah indoors is not rude.  But, generally, it is rude for men to wear a hat indoors.  A hat is supposed to shelter your head from weather and sun.  Why would you need it indoors? Women are not expected to remove hats because their chapeaus are considered part of their hairdos, and in the past they were often held in place with elaborate pins and thus difficult to remove.  Only one bar limits what you can put on your head.  Go to one of the others if you must shelter your eyes from the glaring midnight sun with a ballcap on in a bar.

vance_d
vance_d

Apparently you also have never known anyone who has cancer becasue when your on chemo you can't go out drinking becasue your immune system is weaken and you can get sick very easily. Be realistic.

vance_d
vance_d

Over weight people with long shirts and cancer patients? I think you need to be realistic. And if you think robbing, shooting, stealing and fighting is something that is "gonna happen" then you need to find a new place to hang out.

vance_d
vance_d

Over weight people with long shirts and cancer patients? I think you need to be realistic. Oh wait you are being realistic becasue you think shooting, robbing and fighting is something that "gonna happen" everyday in the city. Get off your high horse

bhall_n
bhall_n

@rebecca.klenke @jwtf924  Why do you assume that those who wear tall t's are a a part of the minority community? You would be ignorant not agreeing that more often than not, those with "tall" t's are more likely to be affiliated in Stl's known gang community.  There is a lot of money invested, and Stl has waited a long time for this. The goal is to have a fun/safe environment. We do not need anyone who is known for being violent attending.  Its a business... you don't like the dress code don't go. They have every right to enforce these precautions for the safety of the majority of their target market. I'm sure someone will say that they are offended and ruin it for everyone in hopes of some easy cash, its america.  

mzkmsjr
mzkmsjr

You dont have to drink when you go out so yes if that person had their last chemo treatment and want to go out and enjoy the atmosphere they don't want attention being attracted to their recovery so APPARENTLY youve never had cancer. And yes over weight people who dress to fit their body have to wear larger clothes. But im guessing you think over weight people all have short arms WRONG. And as for common crimes you speak up, im not saying it gonna happen everyday but your ignorrance prevents you from realizing in any place in the u.s.a if there are people under the influence of alcohol uncontrollable things happen. In a city where minimum wage is 8.25 robberies will happen so get off yourr high horse and step back in to reality.

loraina69
loraina69

Oh please. Sports bar patrons are some of the rudest roudiest jerks around. Ive served in them and lived near them. Thats ok though. They're white. Smdh. Burb assholes. Hey dolt. Baggy drawers don't make one a gangsta. Get a clue

rebecca.klenke
rebecca.klenke

@bhall_n @rebecca.klenke @jwtf924  bhall_n - I do not assume that at all. What I said was that several people on this thread are worried that the dress code is adversely affecting minority populations.  

My goal was not to start an argument on here, but rather to understand jwtf924's comment more fully.

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