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That Cute Huffington Post List About Why St. Louis is a Hidden Gem Got One Thing Wrong

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St. Louis is a hidden gem -- he got that part right.
We just love Marcos Saldivar's Huffington Post list, "26 Reasons to Appreciate the Hidden Gem of St. Louis."

Saldivar, an associate editor at the Huffington Post, is dead-on when he says St. Louis' world-class and free zoo, museums and parks make the Lou much more than a fly-over city -- not to mention the deliciousness that is Ted Drewes.

See also: Welcome to St. Louis, Boston Red Sox Fans: 5 Tips for Getting Around

But before his list even starts, Saldivar makes an assertion about St. Louis that threw us for a loop:

"But there's the case to be made for 'St. Louie,' as it's affectionately called, as America's most hidden gem," Saldivar writes.

St. Louie? Really? Are we dancing the hoochie coochie, too, tootsie-wootsie?

"St. Louie" as a nickname for St. Louis -- which does go by the Lou, River City, Mound City, Gateway City, Gateway to the West, STL and, our favorite, the Rome of the West -- has long been out of style, like how "San Fran" stopped being a nickname for San Francisco.

Twitter agrees:



Saldivar can't be too much to blame. Though he says he's an honorary St. Louisan on Twitter, Saldivar is from California and graduated from the University of Southern California before joining the HuffPo staff in New York.

So thanks for the shoutout on the Huffington Post, Saldivar. Next time you come visit ol' St. Louie, we'll take you for a ride in a trolley.

Follow Lindsay Toler on Twitter at @StLouisLindsay. E-mail the author at Lindsay.Toler@RiverfrontTimes.com.



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maryderda
maryderda

I say St. Louie once in a while. But mostly when I'm making an over-exaggerated exclamation of pride in the city lol And I've lived here my whole life, so don't give me that BS about how only people who aren't from here use it. 

grandhighjman
grandhighjman

I know your parting shot was meant to be sarcastic, but don't forget that the Loop trolley is still allegedly happening.

Brian Dering
Brian Dering

Most may never no all STL has to offer.but this city runs like a wild mustang.talk shit we shut ya up. Show us love we give it back.winter today summer tomorrow.just like the folks peace love and hippies OutlawDering

Toby1
Toby1

I've lived in St. Louis since I was 3 (1966), and as long as I can remember, it's a dead giveaway that anyone who says "St. Louie" isn't from around here.

Genia Ackworth
Genia Ackworth

The city has so much potential but the wrong people running it.

Brandon Lee
Brandon Lee

I don't get it, its good press for our city... Why are you guys trying to turn it into a bad thing?? Did you run out of list ideas??

Chris Bergh
Chris Bergh

It got more than one thing wrong... Prepare for a wave of hipster gentrifiers St. "Louie"

Matt Pierzynski
Matt Pierzynski

I primarily refer to it as STL, but I'm all for St. Louie, as long as you say it like Nelly. 'You can find may in St. Loo-ay...'

Harrison Elfrink
Harrison Elfrink

Clayton doesn't qualify as a "downtown", just a part of the suburban county with office towers and hi-rise condos.

Dan Delpha
Dan Delpha

"Honorary Saint Louisan" = you're not from here and you'll never be a true Saint Louisan, here's a ball, perhaps you can bounce it.

Breea 'Morgan' Weisgerber
Breea 'Morgan' Weisgerber

Dang guys, welcome to St. Louie where if you get one thing wrong about our hidden gem we'll bite your frickin' head off...

Bryan Ranney
Bryan Ranney

What about the ludicrous notion that we have TWO downtowns? We have the ACTUAL downtown, Clayton AND Chesterfield. So that's three.

Laura Dee
Laura Dee

I have never liked that we call it "The Lou". I watch too much British TV where they refer to the bathroom as "the loo".

Laura Dee
Laura Dee

They got that wrong and who calls it "Botan"? I've heard Shaw Gardens, MoBot, and simply The Gardens, but never "Botan".

George Cameron
George Cameron

I grew up 4 blocks from the Botanical Gardens and I've never once heard the term "Botan". I always heard "Shaw's Garden" or the official name. Am I wrong here, guys?

Eric Lachmiller
Eric Lachmiller

Quite a few people call it "St. Louie", but none of them are from St. Louis. Next article: explaining to out-of-towners what a "hoosier" is.

fd2012
fd2012

I believe it was Nelly that coined the nickname "St. Louie"

Jason Robinson
Jason Robinson

He got more than one thing wrong. the Botan? Who calls is that

Terry Weatherford
Terry Weatherford

It's "St Louis" and can stick with that ..... "the Lou" and other names are pretty much unnecessary. (and some sound just stupid)

Laurie Catanzaro-Vanover
Laurie Catanzaro-Vanover

Ive lived here my entire life.. parts of st.louis suck. But I Hate when people call it st.louie

Kevin Zwick
Kevin Zwick

This is silly. Nelly became famous using the nickname as a lyric in one of his songs. RFT, please tell me you know who he is

Laura Goltermann
Laura Goltermann

Thank you for the tag Robert A. West. I have a cooler that is monogrammed with my initials and in big letters it says BOTAN across the front!!! That is what I call the botanical gardens on Wednesday nights in the summer for their free concerts!

Theirry Less
Theirry Less

Thanks for being the spelling police. ;)

stl2014
stl2014

*One* mistake?! Ha! Keep an eye on the ever-expanding corrections list!



Matt Bailey
Matt Bailey

Never heard of Botan . I grew up right by it and everyone I know has always called it Shaw's Garden .

Jason Charney
Jason Charney

Bo-tan sounds like what a Japanese person would call Bo Jackson.

John Davis
John Davis

Not even Kansas Citians call it that.

John Kertz
John Kertz

I thought this exact thing when I read the article. I always just call it The Garden.

Emmanuel Rodriguez
Emmanuel Rodriguez

No no no, it's not St. Louie, it's nickname is The Dirty Lou. (I kid I kid :-D lol)

Brian Besse
Brian Besse

Ken Dean, go crawl back under your rock!

Josh Cain Jennewein
Josh Cain Jennewein

Only people not from the actual city must call it that. The same people who supposedly ask what high school you went to.

Jus Time
Jus Time

Never once heard of it called that..

Ken Dean
Ken Dean

where is the hell did anyone get Rome of the West......How about the next DETROIT ?

Christy Coleman
Christy Coleman

I have called it Botan for years, mocking people who called it Botan...But now I feel attacked and defensive that RFT says I can't call it Botan!

Caroline Eden
Caroline Eden

thank you david. all I can think of when I hear that is British people going to the bathroom.

Erica Chicoineau
Erica Chicoineau

I know tons of people including myself that call it the botans.

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