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Another 11-Year-Old Shot: Girl and Dad Gunned Down After 3 A.M. White Castle Stop

Categories: Violent Crime

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The White Castle at N. Kingshighway.
Less than a week after an unknown gunman shot an eleven-year-old boy in the head while he studied at home with his family, an eleven-year-old girl and her father are in the hospital after being chased down by a car and shot.

See also: Homicide No. 30: Boy, 11, Shot in Head, Killed When Gunman Attacks South St. Louis Family

The man, 32, and his daughter left a White Castle on North Kingshighway around 3:11 a.m. Tuesday and noticed a black Dodge Charger following them after he turned onto Lexington Avenue. Shots rang out from the Charger, and the man tried to speed away, heading south on Norwood Avenue, according to police reports.

The Charger pursued the car for a short distance and then sped away.

See also: Angie Young: St. Louis Homicide No. 85; Shot in White Castle Parking Lot

Both the man and his daughter, whose names police have not released, were shot in the back and are in the hospital in critical but stable condition.

On March 26, eleven-year-old Antonio Johnson died at his south-side home when a gunman climbed on a ledge, aimed a gun into the living room and started firing. Police say they don't think Antonio was the gunman's true target, and they interviewed a teenage boy in the house who'd been shot before for more information.

Follow Lindsay Toler on Twitter at @StLouisLindsay. E-mail the author at Lindsay.Toler@RiverfrontTimes.com.


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Tink Be
Tink Be

and i live in the city myself, and i know if i went out for a late night snack at a fast food place, got shot, and then people on the internet were spreading stuff about me being a druggie, I'd be a little upset. ive said my part and i am done :)

Tink Be
Tink Be

:) i don't take anything personal. i just think people should have some respect for people that are hurt in the hospital, and not talk badly about them and make assumptions till they know the whole story.

e.lumpford
e.lumpford

A lot of people judging saying he should of chose a safer place in that case he can't take her nowhere ...people do work odd hours it's called responsible ..the fact that he was with his kid says more than most people that don't spend time with them ..blame the person who shot them not the person who was feeding his kid

Brenda Denton Langbein
Brenda Denton Langbein

some people work at odd times. its not our business to JUDGE why someone was out at that time. JUDGE THE SHOOTER. Not the victim.

Brenda Denton Langbein
Brenda Denton Langbein

People are quick to blame the victim. The person who shot them was just a poor misunderstood child, he never meant to hurt anyone. It would have never happened if the man and his child had just stayed at home. It's their fault..... Some of you people make me want to puke.

Joshua Young
Joshua Young

I'm sorry, but in my belief, being out at 3 am is very much a part of the reason this kid is dead. I know of this nieghborhood, as I work 2 miles south of it (my place of employment is located in the Central West End), and sometimes take North Kingshighway to I-70 (if I-64 is congested, and often is). I wouldn't ever risk my safety for White Castles, especially a child's! Much safer oprtions exist a few miles south, on Kingshighway or in West St Louis, on Hampton Ave. If your child needed something to eat at 3am, don't be s o lazy and choose a safer place to go! I lock my doors and roll up all my windows to go through that exact light (Kingshighway and Natural Bridge) AT 4 or 5 pm. As a grown person, I have no business being there at 3am. A child? Oh hell no!

Nick Ford
Nick Ford

Blaming the father for having the kid out? Blaming the gun? It's a problem with society, upbringing, drugs and gangs....

Tracey Combs
Tracey Combs

Lot of judging going on here, take a look at your own lives before you worry about others.

Don Lanier
Don Lanier

To many Uneducated, dumb ass KIDS who think there Scarface hanging out with nothing to do, thinking shooting a gun at a stranger is FUN....Curfews Should be enforced, if kids cant act responsibly then treat them as chldren and make them go home at 9 pm....too many gangs, and ridiculous street corner wannabees....

Aileen Kirk
Aileen Kirk

... Bwahahaha! Sorry. That was just... so incredibly wrong.

Gina Marciano Mitauer
Gina Marciano Mitauer

Bridget Kelly...... You aren't kidding!!! I always say that to and about people... They do not comprehend things they read or write.... I say it all the time.. They graded that in school, I scored very high because I could read what was written.. No more no less!!! Unbelievable some people!!! And you're welcome!!

Kevin Rudroff
Kevin Rudroff

And yes,if a scantily clad woman traveled drunk and alone in an area with high levels of abduction and rape I would wonder and question what the hell they were thinking. That situation is relatable to this.

Kevin Rudroff
Kevin Rudroff

There are many facets to thought. For instance if I thought like you I would say some thing like "ok! Yea! Don't question anything ever!" But I won't give into that shit. I am instead going to state that to get to the truth you have to question the situation no matter how harsh it may seem to another person. Questioning isn't siding with either party or supporting any extreme situations its simply just trying to unearth the truth to uncover a prevention

Aileen Kirk
Aileen Kirk

You are really really bad at debates and arguing. You know you're supposed to stay on the topic and be remotely informed, right?

Aileen Kirk
Aileen Kirk

No ones blaming the victim! Wtf? Are you serious?

Laura Dee
Laura Dee

You people saying "why were they out at 3am" might as well be telling a rape victim she shouldn't have been wearing a short skirt. Pathetic to blame the victim!!

Laura Dee
Laura Dee

I agree on that point, too. I grew up with guns and lots of my friends did, too. None of us are thugs and none of us have shot anyone. The guns don't make people dangerous. Lacking respect and being ignorant does. (and sometimes untreated mental illness does)

Laura Dee
Laura Dee

Exactly! So many reasons a kid might be out at 3am that are perfectly reasonable. People are always so quick to judge, never caring about someone else's circumstances. If it doesn't fit their way of life, it must not be "right". smh

Laura Dee
Laura Dee

Yeah... Might as well be saying "Wtf is a woman doing wearing a short skirt out in public?" to a rape victim. By asserting that it was the mother's fault for having the kid out at 3am, you're saying that it's worse to have a kid out late at night than it is to shoot someone. smh

Kevin Rudroff
Kevin Rudroff

Agreed. This girl has been plenty open and honest about what she thinks. If she would have meant black neighbor she probably would've said black neighborhood. Incase you haven't ever seen an RFT feed before ill go ahead and shed some light on it for you. Racist folk are plenty brave enough to be racist on these posts and let their bigotry be heard proudly behind the safety of their computer. You can probably find a couple on this post.

Aileen Kirk
Aileen Kirk

Wow, I live here. In south city. Seriously? You're off your rocker. I didn't mean black at all. You're legitimately insane.

Katie Kelly
Katie Kelly

Please refrain from obscenities - it shows you are white trash when you post like that. Why anyone would listen to you?

Bridget Kelly
Bridget Kelly

Lol, thank you, Gina. Reading comprehension is obviously low around here.

Katie Kelly
Katie Kelly

Aileen, let's quit with the euphemism " bad part of town" when you really mean "BLACK" neighborhood. And why do people act like he took the child with them to protect him "in the hopes they'll leave you alone" . Have we become such a racially divided city where crime only happens to black people? One of those "Not in my back yard, huh?" Because you did such a great job parenting? Remember KARMA is a bitch..........judge not lest ye be judged.

Kevin Rudroff
Kevin Rudroff

She also made a ton of good points. It's a real shame you can't get past the bed time. And did you even happen to notice the majority of the comments on here about why a child was out at 3am?

Bridget Kelly
Bridget Kelly

Says the chick who can't spell vomit. Thanks for the entertainment :)

Gina Marciano Mitauer
Gina Marciano Mitauer

You can take your children anywhere anytime!!! Aileen you made it about bedtime and how she shouldn't of been out and in bed ...

Aileen Kirk
Aileen Kirk

If you think this is about bed time, you're more dumb than you sound.

Bridget Kelly
Bridget Kelly

There are many reasons to be driving your child at any time? Seriously, when one of you becomes the official "bed time" enforcer of the world, please let me know.

Aileen Kirk
Aileen Kirk

Cool. So take your kids there at three am and prove your dumb point.

Aileen Kirk
Aileen Kirk

They should know their neighborhood is dangerous. Fucking please. I know my neighborhood is.

Bridget Kelly
Bridget Kelly

When has anyone been charged with endangerment of a child because they were out with their parents at any time of the night going to a FAST FOOD RESTAURANT? Seriously, he didn't take his kid to a strip club. When you get put in charge of children's bed times, let me know.

Aileen Kirk
Aileen Kirk

Final remark: No child deserves to get shot! Ever! That's why they shouldn't have been there! It's fucking logical! It sucks it happened. Soo much. But it could have been avoided by simply not taking the risk. It has nothing to do with working over nights and having to pick your kids up late. I've been in that boat and sometimes still am and I live in south city (often dangerous). It has to do with making stupid choices which involve putting children in harm's way. It's negligent. Like I said before, if I have my daughter with me for any reason at a late hour, we stop for nothing except emergencies and she can puke in my car before I stop in a dangerous area. I'd rather clean up her vommit than her brains.

Gina Marciano Mitauer
Gina Marciano Mitauer

And that my friends is why people moved to the county... To get away from that Hoosier B.S.!!!

Bridget Kelly
Bridget Kelly

Do people in that neighborhood see it as a bad neighborhood or do they see it as their neighborhood? You're ridiculous.

Aileen Kirk
Aileen Kirk

Oh you're so clueless! I really hope you don't care for children... speaking of, if anyone is ever taking care of my child and she begs you for "orange drink" or claims illness or whatever the case may be, don't take her anywhere except the ER at three am!! Didn't think I'd have to say that but apparently people are slow.

Bridget Kelly
Bridget Kelly

Ya, cause a child being sick is SUCH A WILD THING TO HAPPEN that it's so highly unlikely. Lol..crazy

Hilary Monck Page
Hilary Monck Page

If you're out at 3am....You're looking for trouble or asking for it.

Chris Martin-Nicholson
Chris Martin-Nicholson

Curious to why this man had his child out at White Castles at 3 am? No matter the reason the shooter is wrong as two left shoes. Hope they catch the person. These days, kids aren't even safe in their own homes. However, this story seems bizarre at best. Wondering if its mor eto the story that Dad isn't telling?

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