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Chesterfield Threatens to Secede From St. Louis, Join St. Charles County

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Ah, the boundless beauty of Chesterfield.
Unless Chesterfield can keep more of its sales tax revenue, the city says it's considering leaving St. Louis County and joining up with its neighbors in St. Charles.

Chesterfield mayor Bob Nation told the city council Monday night that he thinks it's time to look at secession as a viable option.

"I'm very seriously suggesting we need to consider looking at the constitutionality of the local sales tax system, or even seceding from St. Louis County and joining St. Charles County, because I don't know what other solution to propose," Nation said at the meeting, according to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.

"St. Louis County has done nothing but take revenue we desperately need to pay our bills. With all the sales and property taxes generated by Chesterfield, I think that isn't an outrageous statement."

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St. Louis County's chief operating officer Garry Earls tells Daily RFT that Nation is "blowing smoke pretty hard," especially since Chesterfield gets $16 million in sales tax from St. Louis County, more than any other municipality.

"[Nation] is trying to convince us that he's serious about this," Earls says, but despite the city's bellyaching about money, "they are making out very well with regard to revenue in the city of Chesterfield."

But Nation isn't complaining about all of Chesterfield's sales tax income -- just the 1 percent that goes into a county-wide pool to be distributed among other cities. Right now, Chesterfield contributes more than 15 percent of the tax funds into the pool and only gets back about 6.5 percent, according to the Post-Dispatch.

"Mr. Nation likes to focus only on the 1 percent sales tax, which is part of his argument of what he does not get," Earls says, adding that Chesterfield gets $5 million from that 1 percent sales tax. "People used to talk about that as the glass half empty. He's not talking about what he does get, which is the part of the glass that is really full."

Of the other 9 percent in sales tax shoppers pay in Chesterfield, a little more than 4 percent goes to the state.

"[Nation] has never demanded to get the state's money or to cede out of the state of Missouri," Earls says.

Transferring Chesterfield from one county to the other could gets a little tricky when it comes to the Missouri River, which divides Chesterfield from St. Peters in St. Charles County. The Monarch Levee protects Chesterfield Valley from flooding, and as the owners of the Spirit of St. Louis Airport, the county of St. Louis is a member of the group that operates the levee.

"If [Chesterfield] were to change ownership, we are going to require them to move the river, too," Earls tells Daily RFT.

If Chesterfield really wants to leave St. Louis (and take Bluesweek and Taste of St. Louis with it), voters in the city, county and St. Charles County would have to approve it, Earls says.

And he knows at least one Chesterfield voter who doesn't want to cede from St. Louis: himself.

"I am one resident in Chesterfield that would vote against changing," Earls says. "I moved here to live in St. Louis County, and that's where I want to stay."

Follow Lindsay Toler on Twitter at @StLouisLindsay. E-mail the author at Lindsay.Toler@RiverfrontTimes.com.


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Bradford Foster
Bradford Foster

I love how a lot not all BUT a lot of the folks from Chesterfield and Wildwood will always tell you where they are from for no reason at all, now we can can just reply " OH, you live in St. Charles Co." would like to see the response on their faces then since they would no longer be "West Co" anymore. No insult to the St. Chuck residents, I was one for a long time.

Steve Ridling
Steve Ridling

I wonder what makes Chesterfield think that St. Charles wants them?

Jess Nenninger
Jess Nenninger

Lol. Bitchfest! WGAF what county Chesterfield is a part of? Some people are so quick to judge people by their address... It's pathetic.

Mark Sullivan
Mark Sullivan

Chesterfield and it's citizens suffer from ego and vanity. They think that since they've changed from the Gumbo bottoms to Chesterfield valley, the levies will hold, and therefore all will be saved. That's ego talking. Vanity steps in when they make an empty threat to join St Charles county, does St Charles even want them? And David Biernbaum Chesterfield has been a snooty pain in the ass since I can remember, you claim 42% revenue? I don't see it, the mall they had was very nice, in the 80's. They have let that mall go, and it's fallen into what a mall looks like when it's about to fall apart. So they build two outlet malls, and several high end businesses in a known flood plain expecting the levy to hold back the waters of the Missouri river. Chesterfield is not picking up the tab for that levy either. Chesterfield's vanity is writting checks it's not going to be able to cash. They have always been a blight, they're just too stupid to realize this, so, Goodbye Chesterfield

Eric Lachmiller
Eric Lachmiller

Well, I read the articles, too. Down towards the bottom of the article, there's a quote that "the voters of the city, the county, and St. Charles County would have to approve". Upon further reading, the city being referred to is probably Chesterfield, but it's not obvious from the way it is written.

Linda SansSouci
Linda SansSouci

The way that headline reads: "St. Louis" and "St. Charles" both modify the word "County"............read it again, you'll see. That's what the comma is for........

Linda SansSouci
Linda SansSouci

Yeah, they need to move the river, so it runs through the middle of Chesterfield. Then, they will really qualify as a "valley", and cease to be a flood plain!

Scott Hopkins
Scott Hopkins

We moved to O'Fallon from Affton a year ago. Our neighborhood here is much more racially diverse here in St. Charles.

Greg Warnusz
Greg Warnusz

It's not the threat to secede that I like. It's the requirement to move the river.

Ben Fine
Ben Fine

Loufest is in Forest Park...

Mike O'Connell
Mike O'Connell

"If Chesterfield were to change ownership, we are going to require them to move the river, too." Quote of the year.

Sara Ivie-Trankler
Sara Ivie-Trankler

A bunch of rich white people that want to join more rich white people, shocking. Hate that town.

Darla Cook
Darla Cook

Simple, many of those shoppers are from St. Louis County, we just won't shop there and they can start paying St Louis County for maintenance of that levee we all built for them. I think staying would be cheaper. You know the former Crestwood Mall would make a great outlet mall site!

Debby Asberry-Chua
Debby Asberry-Chua

seems to me that Chesterfield would fit in quite nicely with St. Charles County. It's up to the individual whether to consider that a compliment or not.

Joshua Lewis
Joshua Lewis

don't let the screen door hit you in the ass on the way out!

David B Fowler
David B Fowler

St. Charles should sell a pice of land just over the Boone bridge to Chesterfield. F stl County.

Brian Boyd
Brian Boyd

There's nothing that says a river MUST be a boundary.

Eric Lachmiller
Eric Lachmiller

Chesterfield is blowing smoke, of course. But I'm curious about something. Why would voters in the City of St. Louis, a separate entity, have any say in whether Chesterfield secedes from the county?

Couch Pig
Couch Pig

Get out quit...St charles property values are rising fast...

David Biernbaum
David Biernbaum

Before everyone says "bye" to Chesterfield you ought to consider that a reported 42% of all sales tax revenue comes from the city of Chesterfield. I think the smarter approach is to work out a new sales tax structure that is more fair to all parties.

Tobias Bud
Tobias Bud

They better give loufest and taste of st.louis back.

KaylaKat
KaylaKat

The issue is about money, nothing more and nothing less. Chesterfield isn't going to join St. Charles county, but the message is clear. In order to maintain the suburb of Chesterfield the city needs more of the revenue back. You can hold the economic development in the area in contempt but you can't deny its value in the county. That's just basic fact.

 I'm genuinely surprised by the amount of Chesterfield-hate. I've lived in University City, Hazelwood, Ballwin, and Chesterfield and the most awful people do not live in west county, believe me. However, I don't judge those from other areas and I think each area of the county and city has something to offer. We're all from St. Louis and each area has its own merits to be proud of. Hating an area because it has money is like hating an area because it's poor; it's stereotyping at its worse and just divides people that should be unified.

 In short, I hope Chesterfield gets a sensible refund from the city and continues to be an economic powerhouse for the county and that all residents of St. Louis and St. Louis county can get along. We're all Cardinals fans after all, right? :)

Bob Goode
Bob Goode

Who really cares about Chesterfield?!? Look at those shitty houses...with brick ONLY on the front. Am I supposed to be impressed? Give me the city....the state streets with brick on all four sides....the gun shots....the grit...the character. In short, FCUK Chesterfield!

Gateway Garlic Urban Farm
Gateway Garlic Urban Farm

Right now as your arguing about someone else s tax dollar 1 in 5 homes is struggling to put food on the table. This tax dollar ( wherever it goes ) doesn't solve this but you can ! Chesterfield residents and you have a lot in common ... you all throw away and waste food unnecessarily which makes up 27 to 31% of YOUR household waste. We can end hunger in America if we use some common sense.

Johnnie Brock
Johnnie Brock

Send in the National Guard. Freaking tax dodgers. What freedom in the US? This cannot be allowed.

Emily Dodd
Emily Dodd

Judging by the spelling or the comprehension of communism, Chesterfield better stay in STL County. St. Chuck schools aren't too impressive. And better call it taste of something else if they do move.

Kevin Guthrie
Kevin Guthrie

Come on to st charles county that way our schools well get some more money and be even better. St Louis dont want to live her but they do want to send their kids to school here.

Katherine Smith
Katherine Smith

Wow Rita Rose Tibbetts what a mature, intelligent comment on a local situation.

Jim Macke
Jim Macke

can the City have The Taste back ?

Katherine Smith
Katherine Smith

This issue has nothing to do with the separation of St. Louis City and St. Louis County. The city of Chesterfield is not happy with the way St. Louis County divides the Tax Revenues among the cities in the County.

Rita Rose Tibbetts
Rita Rose Tibbetts

Wow . lots of mature people calling names. Is that really goin to solve anything by calling people scum, yuppies, or WIC S***. Come on this has nothing to do with the people living there. Its the communist that thinks he is a king RUINING OUR COUNTRY!!!! how will we defeat communism if nieghbors hate nieghbors????? Its not them. Its the guy who passes laws WITHOUT LETTING THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA VOTE ON IT!!! HELLO!!!!! duh. Come on! Really? Its the COMMUNIST LEADER "OBAMA" that is making and letting all this crap happen. How can WE THE PEOPLE DEFEAT THIS COMMUNIST IF WE ARE FIGHTING WITH OUR NIEGHBORS!!!!!

Rita Rose Tibbetts
Rita Rose Tibbetts

Maybe I am confused.....but I thought River Front magazine. ..was about the river. . ..I see houses and no river ....

jrrose
jrrose

Lol and skip out on the most challenging highschoold in the state? Highly doubt that's gonna happen.

s31dustin
s31dustin

You're a special kind of stupid, aren't you?

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