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Archbishop Carlson: My "I Can't Remember" Comments Were Just Taken Out of Context

Categories: Crime, Religion

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Archbishop Carlson says he didn't mean it like that.
The archdiocese of St. Louis says that everybody -- especially the media -- misunderstood Archbishop Robert Carlson's statements about not remembering if he knew back in the '70s and '80s that an adult having sex with a kid was a criminal act.

The comments, which Carlson made during a deposition for a sexual-abuse lawsuit filed against the Twin Cities Archdiocese in Minnesota, caused an uproar in St. Louis and was widely reported on in national media. Faced with with a daunting public-relations task, the St. Louis Archdiocese put out a statement accusing the plaintiff's attorney of taking the comments out of context, as well as everybody in the media misunderstanding the clear and blatant statements Carlson made about not remembering.

"When the Archbishop said 'I'm not sure whether I knew it was a crime or not,' he was simply referring to the fact that he did not know the year that clergy became mandatory reporters of suspected child abuse," says the archdiocese's statement.

See also: Archbishop Robert J. Carlson Can't Remember If He Knew Raping Kids Is a Crime

Here's more from the archdiocese's press release, which can be read in full here:

In the deposition video, which was released by Plaintiff's counsel, the dialogue between Plaintiff's counsel and Archbishop Carlson focused on Archbishop Carlson's knowledge of Minnesota child abuse reporting statutes and when clergy became mandatory reporters. In the full transcript of Archbishop Carlson's deposition, the actual exchange between Archbishop Carlson and Plaintiff's counsel is quite different from what is being widely reported in the media. Plaintiff's counsel began his line of questioning as follows:

Q. Well, mandatory reporting laws went into effect across the nation in 1973, Archbishop.

Charles Goldberg, the attorney representing Archbishop Carlson at this deposition, explained that while current Minnesota law makes it a crime for clergy persons not to report suspected child abuse, that statute did not become effective until 1988. What Plaintiff's counsel has failed to point out to the media is that Goldberg himself noted at this point in the deposition: "You're talking about mandatory reporting?" (Emphasis added by the archdiocese.) When the archbishop said, "I'm not sure whether I knew it was a crime or not," he was simply referring to the fact that he did not know the year that clergy became mandatory reporters of suspected child abuse (pgs. 108-109).

According to the transcript, the question of mandatory reporting laws, which require clergy to report child sexual abuse to the police, was discussed prior to the infamous video of Carlson stating he can't remember if he knew adults having sex with kids was a crime. However, the transcript doesn't appear to show that the plaintiff's attorney, Jeff Anderson, asked of Carlson about the nuances of a particular law. Here's that dialogue:

Click on the next page to see more of the transcript...

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Sublunar Photography
Sublunar Photography

Nothing worse and more despicable than a wolf in sheep's clothing. Rot in hell.

James Madison
James Madison

Bradford Foster, you knew they were not SUPPOSE to touch you, but did you fully understand the penal codes to understand whether it was illegal? I am not condoning his inactions, and definitely not condoning the molesters. What I am defending is his answer to a stupidly posed question by a lawyer.

Bradford Foster
Bradford Foster

James, I was 9 - 12 years old when I knew adults were not to touch CHILDREN, you tool. You would think with all the education a priest receives and the vow they take it really is a no brainer!!!!! You are as bad as Jim Phillips, backing this fools actions, I hope no one turns their back if your child is molested!!!!

Bradford Foster
Bradford Foster

I was 9 - 12 years old when I knew adults were not to touch CHILDREN, you tool. You would think with all the education a priest receives and the vow they take it really is a no brainer!!!!! You are as bad as Jim Phillips, backing this fools actions, I hope no one turns their back if your child is molested!!!!

Neil Aimaro
Neil Aimaro

Oh wow gee well that clears things up. Now let's lock up this piece of shit and throw away the key.

Kate McAtee
Kate McAtee

Pope Francis is coming for you Carlson...as well as.God and the Devil.

Brent Warren
Brent Warren

What a load of obstructionist bullshit. A grown man didn't realize the molestation of a kid was a crime?!? Give me a break! And all of Carlsons's apologists (talking to you, James Madison) are just as bad as he is.

Ken Dean
Ken Dean

He is a pervert himself.....

Sharon Walker
Sharon Walker

He deserves the death penalty for molesting/allowing molesters to continue to harm children. Death penalty ----> then a rocket ship to hell.

neil.allen.76
neil.allen.76

The Catholic church will double down on the lies, knowing that the old ladies will listen to any excuse the church gives them, and will not seek the truth, which takes 17 seconds to find:

In the first 17 seconds of the video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upW7SHAjSEA

QUESTIONER: “Archbishop, You knew it was a crime for an adult to engage in sex with a kid”

ARCHBISHOP CARLSON: “Um, I’m not sure whether I knew it was a crime or not. I understand today it’s a crime”

It couldn't be clearer.

Kendra Paredes Hayden
Kendra Paredes Hayden

Carlson, a guilty man, should have come clean and faced the firing squad instead of desperately trying to save his own ass. What a weakling.

Ryan Tow
Ryan Tow

James I think you need a hobby.

Jen Lovall
Jen Lovall

I'm sorry but catholics are the grounds for child molestation. They always have been. All Catholic men should be castrated before becoming priest. Or better yet don't let your children near any Catholic establishment.

James Madison
James Madison

We put people in prison that break the written laws at the time. Not some 180 deg revisionist wishful lawmaking. We are a nation of laws, not of men. We do not have the government punish those we simply do not like. We have our government punish those that break the duly enacted, constitutional laws at the time of the incident. Ex post facto laws are not legal. Yes, protect the children by enacting enforceable laws. Yes imprison criminals of those laws. Do not use new laws to punish old (in)actions. Those will never hold up in court.

James Madison
James Madison

No justifying a thing beyond answer a stupid lawyer's question with what the Archbishop believes is the truth. He freely admits it is hideous and and a sin, and that he knew that. What he said was he was not certain at the time whether he knew it was also met the legal definition of a crime. You seem to know more than he does on what he knew and when he knew it. Amazing powers you have. Had the idiotic lawyer shown the Archbishop the memo, perhaps the Archbishop would have answered differently. Clearly at the time of writing the memo he knew, but did he know a day before the memo? a week? a month? a year? a decade? When exactly did he know? That is basically what the lawyer was asking. Impossible to answer. I blame the lawyer for asking a stupid question. Not everything that is immoral is illegal. Breaking you vows is not a crime. I am not Catholic, but I refuse to witch hunt those that are anti-Catholic.

James Madison
James Madison

not the blowjob, but the rape. not the blowjob but the mismatch of authority is sexual assault (read N.O.W. documents when a CEO gets bj from a secretary). Then consider Bill's testimony under oath, to which he paid just shy of a million dollars and lost his license to practice law. Not just a blowjob. Sweep your buddies crimes under the rug. A piss poor lawyer asked a piss poor question to which not specific answer can be given. Can you name the date you knew it was a legal crime? Or were you born with that legal knowledge? The Archbishop said it was hideous and a sin. He just was not certain when he knew it was also a crime.

James Madison
James Madison

Jim Phillips, not kidding at all. This is a serious matter. Yes, child molestation is hideous, and the criminals should be punished. But you cannot answer the question exactly either. Blame the lawyer for asking the impossible question, not the person answering it.

Grace K.
Grace K.

You missed the part when he was clearly lying about not knowing to cover up his guilt at not busting his pedo buddies

Vinnie Watts
Vinnie Watts

James Madison, you are justifying this man telling lies about the sexual assault of children. The archbishop was a grown fault when these horrible events occurred. He knew it was illegal. He knew it wad immoral. He knew that priests take a vow of celibacy. He knew he was covering up illegal behavior. Witch hunt my ass. You must a member of the Catholic Church.

Ryan Tow
Ryan Tow

He deserves prison. Protect the children, not criminals.

Jim Phillips
Jim Phillips

I keep hearing this. I am familiar with the Lincoln scandal out of Omaha.

Mark Alan
Mark Alan

we have a deeply EVIL government operating pedophile rings worldwide

Chris DiMercurio
Chris DiMercurio

Supporting this guy's bs is paramount to supporting the crimes he is covering up. Not only will I cast stones... I'll drop buildings on this guy. Comparing a blowjob to the sexual assault of children?? You're a fool. Keep supporting the church and this fallen idiot, you look great doing it.

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