Can St. Louis Be the San Fernando Valley of Amateur Porn? These Guys Think So.

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Studio Torno

Two weeks after the Motel 6 shoot, Sam and Corey are back at Utopia Studios. This time they plan to do two shoots: a girl-on-girl scene and a guy-on-girl scene. A threesome would bring in more money from Homegrown Video, but that's not possible — one of the women is the guy's sister.

"We were both looking for odd jobs on Craigslist, and my cousin was like, 'Hey, you should check this out,'" says Phoebe, a twenty-year-old part-time stripper who is about to star in her first adult film.

"It's not a lot of money, but I work in the sex industry and I really enjoy it," she says, adding, "and I really need to save up for a car."

Phoebe's brother, Patrick, is also a first-timer. But the 25-year-old says porno is something he's serious about getting into.

"I really want to work in porn," he says with a smile. "I think I can be really good at it."

Unfortunately for the aspiring porn star siblings, the other female is a no-show. Not wanting to waste the money they spent on the studio rental, Sam gets on the phone to find another male performer.

"Would you be OK having sex with a 43-year-old?" he asks Phoebe.

"Sure," she says, explaining that it wouldn't be much different than the guys she gives lap dances to at the strip club.

When Rory arrives, he has better luck this time. Phoebe looks him over and agrees to have sex with him. But there are a few conditions.

"I do guys, but I'm really more of a lesbian," says Phoebe. For her, that means no blowjobs. She's also not into doggy-style.

"I just don't like the way it feels," she explains.

Corey tries to hide his disappointment. Only fetish porn could get away with such radical scenarios as "no blowjob" and "no doggy-style." But not wanting to be forceful, he goes with the flow.

"No problem," he says. "We don't want you to do anything you're uncomfortable with. So just do whatever you feel you're OK with doing."

Phoebe, unlike the other females in Sam and Corey's films, is really going for the porn-star look, wearing a see-through negligee, stiletto heels and heavy eyeliner. But the bombshell appearance clashes with her onscreen reticence. Once she and Rory begin, it's clear she's uncomfortable. The kisses are restrained. The petting looks mechanical.

"Are you OK?" Corey asks. "We can stop."

"No, it's fine. I came all the way down here," she answers. But she is anxious about her brother being nearby.

"Is he still out there?" she asks. Sam confirms he is — playing video games in the lobby.

The general sense of unease is exacerbated by the heat in the studio. The air conditioner and fans had to be turned off because they were interfering with the sound. But then a few minutes later, a speed-metal band with a passionate drummer started playing at full volume in the adjacent studio.

Still, Phoebe insists on continuing.

"Rory, why don't you go down on her for a while?" Corey says.

Rory does as instructed. For a while Phoebe is back in the groove, despite the blaring lights inside the blazing studio.

But getting to the next step — penetration — proves to be impossible. It just won't go in. Phoebe is not into it. Everything about the situation looks awkward: the lack of sexiness in the act, the drastic age difference between the two performers and, especially, Phoebe's obvious discomfort.

Corey calls off the shoot.

"I'm sorry," Phoebe says. "I just haven't been with a guy in three years. I guess I wasn't ready."

"Don't be sorry," Corey says. "It's totally understandable. If you want to try again another day, that's cool. If you want to."

"Yeah, maybe next week," she says.

Phoebe leaves with her brother. Rory, ever eager, tells Sam and Corey he could be available again. Just call him.

"I'm always around," he says as he leaves.

Sam sighs. Both he and Corey are disappointed. They probably won't be able to sell the video from the shoot. It'll be chalked up as a loss.

"Sometimes they go good. Sometimes they don't," Sam says.

After expenses, he and Corey figure they make about $12 an hour producing their films.

"It's way better than cleaning carpets for the same amount of money," Sam says.

Corey agrees, though he notes that STL Adult Films has yet to blossom into a full-time gig.

"The trick," he says, "is being able to do the work consistently."

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Melonie Brock
Melonie Brock

I don't see a problem with it if that's what they want to do.

Eric Peters
Eric Peters

Can we just all agree that porn is not hip?


For the record, I am NOT the Corey mentioned in this article.  I am a freelance photographer and I do NOT shoot porn. 

Thanks, RFT.


Oh for fuck's sake.  I AM NOT THE COREY IN THIS ARTICLE.

Melanie Chorak
Melanie Chorak

After living a decade in Los Angeles I find this article rather silly tbh.

David J. McCutcheon
David J. McCutcheon

I guess they're doing more to create jobs than most companies around here, eh?

Jeremy Brooks
Jeremy Brooks

Might have given it a shot in my younger days

Jon Wilson
Jon Wilson

I wanna be a soft core porn star, everyone.

sweetliberty17761776 topcommenter

wow then they had to bake a pie-in da pie ( with the flour trick)


This story gets even more flushed out this weekend on when on Sunday from 1-3p on The Q, Sam joins to discuss all of it and even more with us.


Midwest amateur porn. Gross. 

Also - all this hillbilly porn will just be made to appeal to men, like most other porn. That's why the woman is 19 and the dude is some fucking 40 year old. And people wonder why women just watch gay porn. It's one of the few places you can find attractive younger men without beer bellies and back hair. *puke*


“The two women have just successfully completed their first porno scene. For their work this afternoon they stand to earn between $50 and $100, that is, if Corey and Sam can sell the film to their distributor. But since today’s film was shot solely on spec, Jenny and Kelly leave with little more than a promissory note for future payment.”

Must be a typo. Going rate is 10-20 times that amount for amateur porn (and it isn’t paid on spec). If the models are indeed doing it on spec, the pay should be much more than that.

Chance Brown
Chance Brown

lol...funny how the guy Rory is it?!..kept coming up short...dude if you look old try including some Charisma....tell a joke ...something to break the ice....not asking the potential her funny


my band used to practice there! neat.

Enrique Mitchell
Enrique Mitchell

On one of those couches at utopia??? Eeeeewwwww. I wouldn't eat a bag of chips at that place.

whateveryousay topcommenter

No kidding. It costs more to get my car waxed.

sweetliberty17761776 topcommenter


blaming men for the natural occurance of sexual needs is like blaming a mom for needing to breast feed

and there is plenty of porn that appeals to women as the media loves to show grrrrl power with stats and headlines like:

women make most of the sex decisions 


women actually purchase more porn than men

women have an easier go of it when it comes to sex itself as I would think you would know

most anything a women might ask a man to do and he'll do it

( that all goes back to how men are programmed to need it more;so they are more desperate and are willing to do more)

there is also the natural act of females who want older men so there are not games being played etc

if porn were only about good looking people having sex

( and good looking is of course ..subjective)

maybe 90% ofporn wouldnt exist especially amateur stuff


@Brenda Denton Langbein I think $100 for to hours of work is pretty good. 

sweetliberty17761776 topcommenter


maybe in the valley and for semi known or known girls

I think you might be wanting the females to get pizzzed off with your way way off base assessment 


@d012560c Lol, not if it's lesbian porn. That never makes much money even for professionals.



Except it's on 'spec'.  A decent looking woman can make this money by webcamming without the need to have sex with strangers.



Attractive amateurs command more money because they are fresh meat.  Sites that specialize in that genre pay at least 10x what this guy pays these women (and it is NOT on spec).  Examples are ExploitedCollegeGirls, BackroomCastingCouch, GirlsDoPorn, etc. For $50 to $100, a decent looking woman could make this kind of money just by camming without the need to have sex with anyone. Nothing changes just because we are talking about St. Louis. 

According to Mark Spiegler, there is a relatively straightforward scale for performances by an in-demand actress:

$800 for a girl-girl scene
$1,000 for a guy-girl scene
$1,200 or more for anal sex
$4,000 or more for "double penetration"
For a non in-demand actress (however you might want to define that), cutting these amounts by 50% gives you a pay scale similar to what I have claimed.  You can find similar numbers if you Google "pay rate in porn" (or similar search term).
FYI ... I owned a webcam studio in the Phoenix area as well as being the housemate of the owner of a well known AZ porn site.  What's your experience/credentials?


@maggiev Solo girl scenes make $400+, so lesbian porn certainly makes more than that.

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