Liking Pavement and Kanye West for the Wrong Reasons

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Demographically speaking -- I'm white and I wish I could play electric guitar and I went to a four-year university -- it was inevitable that at some point I would become a fan of Pavement. My friend is white and once probably said he didn't like Kanye West, so it was inevitable that at some point he would become a fan of Kanye West. These both happened in the last few months, and his went much more smoothly -- My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy all the way through, and the recent conception of Kanye West as a wild, maximalist pop genius and not a morally conflicted backpack rapper, whatever that was ever supposed to mean.

As for me, I realized I didn't like Pavement for the reasons I was supposed to. The noise and the non-songs put me off, Slanted and Enchanted sounds too much like it's playing through a set of novelty walkie talkies I had when I was a kid, and the slacker ethos, whatever that was ever supposed to mean, is at least a little morally responsible for everybody listening to Candlebox instead of "Gold Soundz," which is what my culture studies professors would call "problematic."

No, I like Terror Twilight, and I like it because it's really pretty. I'm sorry, white-suburban-college-educated-male-guitar-fans. I'm sorry that I love adult contemporary music so much.

When a band is no longer a going concern I guess you're entitled to enjoy it for whatever reasons you care to. My friend, still moving backward through the Kanye West catalogue, is a little more constricted in his movement. He can like Kanye West for his social consciousness, but the pickings are going to get slim after Late Registration. He can like Kanye West for his open-heartedness, but I'm not sure he's prepared to defend 808s and Heartbreak for the rest of his life.

When you like a band for the wrong reason--that is, for a reason that exists outside whatever trendline they were on, and that will not be mentioned in the Associated Press article after they reunite or come to your town or start dating a Kardashian--you're very deliberately pruning their catalogue and altering their expression, in a way that some music fans will probably find post-album and terrible and that my culture studies professors would probably try to call "eliding," because they kind of suck in that way.

Is it wrong to like Pavement because every sixth or seventh song Stephen Malkmus writes is a slow, sincerely melodic ballad? Or Kanye West because in his first few songs about diamonds he at least nodded at diamond mines? Or the Beatles because of the ones with lyrics you could stencil onto a throw pillow?

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whitsb05
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This is really how I got into Pavement...'Spit on a Stranger' had me hooked back in 2000 or so.  I'm mostly in it for the ballads too, but I don't want to discount the appeal of the band's tendency to wear matching Santa suits.

danup
danup

 @whitsb05 Very good point. Though even the videos are all oddly wistful.

jakeniehaus
jakeniehaus

@gatewaygroupie @rftmusic 808's was what MADE me more of Kanye fan.

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