Sorry, But Kanye Is the GOAT

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5) 808s & Heartbreak is not that good

Wait, it's the Future era and folks are still complaining about Auto-Tune? Not only did Jay not successfully kill it off, but it's come to be as ubiquitous in pop and hip-hop as, we don't know, 808s. (And yes, we're still waiting on that critical reevaluation of T-Pain.)

What everyone who wasn't blinded by the great anti-disco-style Auto-Tune hysteria of the late aughts already knows, of course, is this: What makes 808s great is the songwriting. The work, a downer concept album focusing on relationships that was somehow a giant hit, pioneered the now-pervasive "sad robot" subgenre, and helped solidify the idea that it was ok to be really, really vulnerable in rap.

It's built on real emotion, channeled eloquently. And we'd say the song structures are Beatlesque, if not for the fact Kanye's achievement is probably greater than the Beatles', if only because he did a lot more producing than they.

6) OutKast is the GOAT

Sure maybe if you take OutKast's first five albums -- but pry The Love Below out of the double CD case and replace it with Sir Lucious Left Foot -- and pit them against Kanye's five albums, then maybe it's close. But that's a lot of math.

7) My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy won't hold up

Yeah, after our initial obsession with the work we too thought that. And it was definitely a terrible thing for Pitchfork to give it a 10.0. But we challenge any doubters to listen to MBDTF again, right now, and see if you're not caught up all over again. Truth is it sounds as good now as it did before, maybe better. Raekwon, Nicki Minaj, Pusha T, Bon Iver and Fergie alike are at peak form, and that's a strange sentence to write. In fact, we'll even go so far as to say the 34 minute "Runaway" video holds up.

8) Tupac is the GOAT

If you genuinely feel this way then there's probably no talking you out of it here, and in terms of worldwide cultural influence there's admittedly no topping Tupac. (And that's comparing him to any cultural artifact short of Baywatch.) But c'mon. Also, let's be honest, "Hey Mama" > "Dear Mama."


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28 comments
johnnyawf
johnnyawf

How dare you say that about "The Love Below"

And how about some local music coverage? Is Kanye coming to town or something?

kennedyk84
kennedyk84

Boris pic at the top. WHERE THEY BELONG.

kennedyk84
kennedyk84

Boris pic at the top. WHERE THEY BELONG.

kennedyk84
kennedyk84

Boris pic at the top. WHERE THEY BELONG.

kennedyk84
kennedyk84

Boris pic at the top. WHERE THEY BELONG.

kennedyk84
kennedyk84

Boris pic at the top. WHERE THEY BELONG.

Savage Sun
Savage Sun

He has his audience, but no one relevant at Ground Zero, or in any other circle I'm a part of is even considering KW to be the GOAT. A goat..? Maybe, but not THE GOAT. As a matter of fact, there are too many aspects that must be taken into account to give that title to one artist. Who cares, everyone will have their opinion, but I'm not buyin' it for a moment.

philipweaver.ingram
philipweaver.ingram

Kanye West is an artist with a capital A, true. The whole GOAT argument is irrelevant and purely subjective. But as an article and more specifically an article which claims to voice some expertise in critiquing music, this is WOAT. Weakest of All Time.

Dennis Fleming
Dennis Fleming

And all this time I thought Sylvia was the goat.

Josh Crull
Josh Crull

1. share this article 2. ??????? 3. PROFIT

Adam Hardebeck
Adam Hardebeck

I don't even listen to a lot of rap, but this is pure bullshit

Bryan Berger
Bryan Berger

What in the entire fuck did you smoke? Bath salts?

Adam Murphy
Adam Murphy

get the EFFF out of here with that nonsense ......if it wasnt for Tef poe doing his blog i swear RFT would be 100% bs when comes to cover hip hop/rap ......yall need to stick to bands

pwalgamott
pwalgamott

GOAT has plenty to do with rapping ability, not that he's bad. But there are plenty better. And considering the quality of "hip-hop" these days I think it's blasphemy to consider someone an artist who will collaborate and produce for anybody willing to pay him is an embarrassment to 30+ years of real talent and innovation. Under no circumstances does he crack the top 10, maybe even top 20.

pwalgamott
pwalgamott

GOAT has plenty to do with rapping ability, not that he's bad. But there are plenty better. And considering the quality of "hip-hop" these days I think it's blasphemy to consider someone an artist who will collaborate and produce for anybody willing to pay him is an embarrassment to 30+ years of real talent and innovation. Under no circumstances does he crack the top 10, maybe even top 20.

Matthew Sawicki
Matthew Sawicki

hahaha, definitely not. where would he be without Jon Brion?

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