Sorry, But Kanye Is the GOAT

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5) 808s & Heartbreak is not that good

Wait, it's the Future era and folks are still complaining about Auto-Tune? Not only did Jay not successfully kill it off, but it's come to be as ubiquitous in pop and hip-hop as, we don't know, 808s. (And yes, we're still waiting on that critical reevaluation of T-Pain.)

What everyone who wasn't blinded by the great anti-disco-style Auto-Tune hysteria of the late aughts already knows, of course, is this: What makes 808s great is the songwriting. The work, a downer concept album focusing on relationships that was somehow a giant hit, pioneered the now-pervasive "sad robot" subgenre, and helped solidify the idea that it was ok to be really, really vulnerable in rap.

It's built on real emotion, channeled eloquently. And we'd say the song structures are Beatlesque, if not for the fact Kanye's achievement is probably greater than the Beatles', if only because he did a lot more producing than they.

6) OutKast is the GOAT

Sure maybe if you take OutKast's first five albums -- but pry The Love Below out of the double CD case and replace it with Sir Lucious Left Foot -- and pit them against Kanye's five albums, then maybe it's close. But that's a lot of math.

7) My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy won't hold up

Yeah, after our initial obsession with the work we too thought that. And it was definitely a terrible thing for Pitchfork to give it a 10.0. But we challenge any doubters to listen to MBDTF again, right now, and see if you're not caught up all over again. Truth is it sounds as good now as it did before, maybe better. Raekwon, Nicki Minaj, Pusha T, Bon Iver and Fergie alike are at peak form, and that's a strange sentence to write. In fact, we'll even go so far as to say the 34 minute "Runaway" video holds up.

8) Tupac is the GOAT

If you genuinely feel this way then there's probably no talking you out of it here, and in terms of worldwide cultural influence there's admittedly no topping Tupac. (And that's comparing him to any cultural artifact short of Baywatch.) But c'mon. Also, let's be honest, "Hey Mama" > "Dear Mama."


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228 comments
Angie Steiger
Angie Steiger

Unsubscribed. RFT has been a joke for quite some time, but what ridiculous timing for this article. Wouldn't one on the amazingly talented Beck be better? See ya, RFT.

Theresa Hampton Allen
Theresa Hampton Allen

No, he's not the greatest! Greatest fool, perhaps, but not artist. Just sayin.

Maria Fontana Franklin
Maria Fontana Franklin

He's the greatest dbag. Other than that, he's nothing. He always looks like a butthurt 5-year-old. Everyone's always against him (in his head).

Terry Cagle
Terry Cagle

Hey @ Riverfront Times if my first comment gets to 130 likes you should let me write and post one story and see how well it is received especially since you all catch a lot of flack for the stories you post

Drew Somervell
Drew Somervell

I guess the RFT never heard of LL Cool J, Big Daddy Kane, KRS-1, Slick Rick, Ice Cube, Ice-T, Shock G, Q-Tip........I could go on.

Mark Reynolds
Mark Reynolds

I would love to see 1990 Ice Tea literally murder him. But I'm old. What do I know?

Laura Bass
Laura Bass

Bull Shit racist ass of a donkey

Angela Williams
Angela Williams

Best Hip Hop artist of all time??? He is talented and I even have some of his stuff; but best of all time I don't think so and he's still a douche bag....Thanks but no thanks RFT...

Drew Somervell
Drew Somervell

We gunna ain't keep goin' until e'ry paraplegic in the house stan up off they feet!!!

DNArocks
DNArocks

He is not an artist at all in any way,,,but i am completely fine with him posing as one because all the Sheeple of the world need some dumb ass spokesman to fill their Shallow Lives....

Anthony J Costa
Anthony J Costa

This article makes me see the RFT in a whole different way, and not in a good way!!! The fact that the RFT would even allow this article to be released is beyond me... The RFT just lost tons of credibility . What a joke!!

Ryan Skeen
Ryan Skeen

Greatest...and hip hop are a contradiction in terms

Patrick Walgamott
Patrick Walgamott

People think he's good because MTV and radios gave up on real rappers 15 years ago, so when someone who can actually rap at all starts getting attention for fucking some talentless gal who fucked some has been singer's younger brother on tape, ignorant ass people start calling him the best ever. This is the country we live in.

Patrick Walgamott
Patrick Walgamott

Korian, he is a great producer, and a very good rapper, but he doesn't hold a candle to most of the people he has produced for. You dont know shit about rap. Im sure all you listen to is what MTV and the radio tell you to your entire life. You are everything that is wrong with our country and the current state of popular music.

Chauna Payne
Chauna Payne

Because it was a "crossover" hit...Thanks for your input

Patrick Walgamott
Patrick Walgamott

Unsubscribed. Your hip hop ignorance is beyond any level of respect.

Chris Gee
Chris Gee

Kanye West is not the goat. Far from it.

Thomas Weymer
Thomas Weymer

Ben westhoff you sir are a fucking retard! Kanye is a fucking joke

Edward Foy
Edward Foy

I'm really sick of looking at Kim Kardashians ass.

MA Zep
MA Zep

RFT, put the crystal meth down...

Dennis Gilbert
Dennis Gilbert

" greatest hip-hop artist " big fuckin deal, he can talk fast while the drum bangs and disparage women, blacks, whites and authority. BIG RICH JOKE!

Kered Spuds
Kered Spuds

HA HA HA HA Do you even listen to music, RFT?

Amelia Kay
Amelia Kay

I agree Golddigger was the best song he did.

Glenn Blackmore
Glenn Blackmore

He is a f$&@ing joke and has no talent at all. If it wasn't for autotune he would sound like a drowning cat.

David Sostman
David Sostman

You have goat to be kidding me RFT! Learn an instrument, and leave the writing to the professionals!

Terry Cagle
Terry Cagle

Beck can play 14 instruments and Beyonce has multiple writers per song as does Kanye but Beck needs to respect artist's gtfoh

Josh Patton
Josh Patton

Worlds biggest dick for him aka worlds biggest mouth.

Terry Cagle
Terry Cagle

Hell give me a chance to write a story for this paper and post it and i guarantee it will have more fans than detractors.....

Sharon Gladney
Sharon Gladney

hes a thirsty attention grabber like beybot and kar-trash-ians

Billy Arnall
Billy Arnall

Who reads a ass wipe rag like the river front times anyway...

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