Six Punk Bands We Don't Need To Talk About Anymore

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We really, really don't need to discuss Social Distortion. Really.
I have an embarrassing tendency to bait people into conversations where I just talk about cool things I am doing. Surprise, right? While it likely stems from being bored with hearing of the mundane achievements of others (babies, crappy jobs, cars), there is a part of me that figures it must stem from some sort of deep-seated masochism -- the same way I used to force myself to watch My Super Sweet 16. Without fail, the conversation switches to traveling, music, or some other trite nonsense and the question arises:

"Oh, what kind of band are you in?"

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Look, explaining you're in a punk band sucks -- it's like telling people you're a chef. Most people think they know a thing or two about it, and the resulting conversation is maddening. It hurts for everyone involved, as slowly the attempt to bond over art turns into an insecure namedropping contest. So for the sake of all of us, here are six punk bands we simply don't need to talk about.

1. The Clash [Editor's note: I am diving out of the way on this one; Drew, you can take the heat. The Clash rules, just sayin'.]

I'll be honest with you: I haven't really listened to much of the Clash because a lot of punks who wear hats with chains on them seem to be big fans. Plus, everything I've read about the band basically states it formed with the intention of latching on to the Sex Pistols' success. But in the interest of journalistic integrity, I am listening to some songs now -- and I still think they suck, with the exception of some live stuff. Reggae is gross and bad English punk sounds like Andrew Lloyd Webber. Oh and if that's not enough, Bono once called the Clash the most influential band on U2's sound.

Lets talk about these bands instead:

'70s Regional Alternatives:
Desperate Bicycles
The Stranglers
Buzzcocks
The Damned
Ultravox

2. Social Distortion

Social Distortion is just Good Charlotte for people who wear flames on their clothes. Punk rock mixed with car culture is like going to the zoo with a bazooka - a funny concept with unforgivable results.

Why don't we talk about these bands instead?:

Southern California Punk That Doesn't Encourage Dice Tattoos
Channel 3
VOM
Agression
The Dickies
The Weirdos

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186 comments
ihsweden
ihsweden

To write a punk critique and begin by admitting you haven't really listend to The Clash is like writing about your favourite football team but saying that you have never actually been to a game. It completely destroys any credibility in ther writers knowledge of the subject.

The Clash were arguabley the biggest global success to emerge from the punk scene but they transended it. The Who sailed out on the Mod scene of the mid 60's but a decade later Roger Daltry looked more like Robert Plant. All great bands transend their roots and that is what the Clash did. Music is subjective. We don't all like the same stuff but to say the Clash are rubbish is like saying Mozart or Beethoven are rubbish, just because you don't like classical music. The Clash were the punk Beatles. There is an era and songs that everyone likes because they were quality songs, regardless of personal like. It is just another damning hole in the writers argument. Someone mentions Sandanista as their finest album. I don't agree. I think it is London Calling, but it doesn't change the fact that Sandanista has some amazing songs on it. taste is subjective but quality is always quality, regardles of personal taste. The writer of this article is talking out of his ass and is out of his depth at that!

jennmderose
jennmderose

All I have done for the last week is talk about how great Sandinista! is.  Thanks, Drew, for making me proselytize The Clash's most maligned, ignored, greatest album. 

nope
nope

Are you kidding? The Clash are not in the same category as the rest of these bands. Yes, they were inspired by the Pistols as were many, but what they created made the Pistols sound like a one-dimensional cartoon. "London Calling" will melt your face a thousand times over. You're like this dude I met at a party once who dismissed VU as "a boy band created by Andy Warhol". Learn your history!

nubirth3k
nubirth3k

I was a teen in late 80s NJ, listened to punk etc since early 80s as a kid and into my adulthood and frequented City Gardens, Fastlane II, The Pipeline, CBGB, Stone Pony, The Saint, Brighton Bar, and all other punk/hardcore/rock original bars/clubs with friends all in HC, punk, metal, thrash and crossover bands (Social Decay, Lethal Aggression, Hogans Heroes, Dead Heros, The Fiendz and many many other bands like Dog Eat Dog, Bouncing Souls, Misfits, Michale Graves all played and practiced around my area.

I definitely get the point of the article being more about wearing out overtalked bands.... reminds me of that (not punk) Dramarama song "Classic Rot". Basically about shit you hear over and over and over and people herald these bands as great and untouchable.

HOWEVER, listening to 'most' of these bands on his list for the first time at any given time in ones life can be... well... LIFE CHANGING for a kid or first time listener. But, then you also delve into the lesser known or more 'street cred' bands of yesteryear and today (mostly upon pressure from the cooler kiddies who slam a kid for that Green Day shirt after theyre over 20 yrs old. hahaha)

OVERALL, you cant take my talked about, overstated punk bands that I went to see at shitholes we loved to hate and bled from the forehead for, puked in a bathroom for, and fucked in an alley for AWAY! PUNK IS DEAD will always be alive and well!!! Long live it!

timbrouk
timbrouk

Contrarian nitwit. I guess someone had no new content to post and came up with this crap.

jonathan.jensen
jonathan.jensen

Ha! Grouping The Clash together with these dorks just goes to show how much you don't know.

socialdgal
socialdgal

I think Social d is one of the best band still around . Whoever writes this apparently has no taste in music , but we are all allowed to our own  thoughts how ever bad they mad be

oioioioioi
oioioioioi

ahhh this takes me back to high school. people arguing over which bands are actually "punk" and who is a poser. you guys realize that this site counts hits to the page and all you're doing is giving this guy more credibility with the RFT right? article rules, you guys are faggot whiners.

justinlpoole
justinlpoole

The amount of people crying and complaining about this article greatly outnumbers the amount of people who attended Saint Louis punk shows in the last six months.

rickb771
rickb771

Those have got to be some of the most insipid comment's about Clash ever written.  But then again we get a sense of the author's lack of good judgment when he tells us that he hasn't listened to much of the Clash because of the sartorial choices of some of its fans.   And he says that "everything I've read about the band basically states it formed with the intention of latching on to the Sex Pistols"  So he can't have read much at all about them.  What we really don't need to talk about anymore id this guy's opinions.

brandonlhart
brandonlhart

Your an ignorant asshole. First of all I'm a chef....... If you can't talk about food and the fact that you can't contrive a conversation intelligent enough to keep another persons attention much less your own is a sad excuse to imagine music as a last resort.... when music is the last thing people on earth should relate over since really all it is is other peoples interpretation of the world around us and not our own. Just because you don't know how to speak to people doesnt mean you can live our your own sycophantic fantasy online and declare yourself the spokesperson of the twentieth century in charge of declaring what music people should discuss and shouldn't.  The most ignorant self fullfilling garbage I've read online in years

JoshV
JoshV

This article has had more impact in getting you hordes of folks nostalgic for some bygone glory days of punk - or the current classic-era apers (the godawful shit like Rancid that does, case in point) realize that these adjectives and genres like "punk" are antithetical to punk ideas most of the time. Good work Drew. I may like some Clash tunes, have a Rancid and Social D. record stinking up my parents' garage, but I love the absolutism of the piece. Punk should be about refreshing itself, creativity and destruction once in a while. And it should fucking rage in some kind of way musically. The trouble with these shitty careerist shit rock outfits is their comfort and the horrendous music they make (maybe as a result).

Anybody who says the dude's a hipster is a fool looking for a scapegoat, and you probably also haven't gone to a small, vital show in years. Or you might've gotten it and not gotten so defensive all this crap.


bradpants
bradpants

Five Iron Frenzy is touring again, everybody

gmshiggs
gmshiggs

Everyone is such an asshole on the internet.

buzzfugazi
buzzfugazi

Phony Clashmania has bitten the dust, eh? Go on, ya wanker.

ladieswhokill
ladieswhokill

what a useless article. also, green day and rancid aren't punk. 


 

robschultz
robschultz

I'm all about freedom of opinion but this isn't even an opinion it's an attempt to inflame..Drew admits he hadn't even listened to the clash before he formed an opinion...lazy journalism, but I guess that's what you get when you are too cheap to pay an actual writer and instead get some kid to write yet another "10 most blah blahs that you blah blah"

comedyfran
comedyfran

shut up  Drew Ailes! I bet you're into bands like 5 finger Death Punch. you should just keep your opionions to your self and jam em up your ass along with that article bout nu-metal bands.

metalnoir66
metalnoir66

This reminds me of a tiny conversation I had in 1986. I was talking about the (then) new Motorhead record when a young guy within earshot interrupted me by saying, "Motorhead? You should be listening to Exodus. They're heavier."

fuyouck
fuyouck

" Our commitment to produce a quality publication has made the Riverfront Times indispensable to metropolitan St. Louis."

Congratulations! You've been dispensed!   

voozun
voozun

Hey kiddies stop fighting-the bottom line is that everybody is entitled to an opinion....if you happen to be in a position where your opinion finds itself in print and results in some spirited debate then so be it.  I am 44 years old.  I still consider myself a punk.  I spent a lot of time at City Gardens. I'm not really into the Clash but I don't bash people who are.  Love who you love and get on with your life


bluesnoodler
bluesnoodler

Oh, Drew doesn't like talking to people about being in a "punk band" because invariably they just don't have the vast understanding of "punk bands" that Drew thinks he has?

Hilarious. This article is what happens when you send a boy to do a man's job.

Drew is experimenting with listening to the Clash? LOL!

He claims his therapist doesn't know anything about "punk" because he graduated in 1977.

From what i can gather here, Drew wasn't even born at that point -- which is why the little doofus is unaware is that '77 PUNK WAS ALREADY OVER. How do I know? Because I was around then to see it.

ANyone over 40 knows more about "punk" than wee Drew and his fellow Nth generation *posers* in his incredibly lame and unoriginal, totally conformist candy floss confection of what he thinks is a "punk" band. 

Seriously: what addles Drew's generation that they think they are the arbiters of things they are rehashing for the umpteenth time, like punk? Drew AIles wouldn't recognize "punk" if it showed him it's driver's license then punched him in his witless face. His band is only "punk" in the aspect that if they were incarcerated they would be traded for cigarettes.

Listening to self appointed hipster arbiter kids like Ailes who were born 20 years *after the fact* witlessly pontificating about "punk" is both hilarious and depressing. What other topics that wee Drew could not possibly know anything about because HE WASN'T EVEN BORN YET can he present himself as an expert on? Perhaps Drew could tell us what he thinks of rotary phones, for instance. No doubt Drew has never seen, much less touched a rotary phone, making him as qualified to talk about them as he is to talk about "punk'.






bcor29
bcor29

Hard to believe this crap was actually published. If you're going to say a band sucks, at least try and give a legit reason instead of talking about what their fans are wearing.

kirbzone78
kirbzone78

all the bands you mention here are rank and bogus posers. Minutemen and Black Flag are the best from SoCal. Green Day? Major label poser pseudo punk. 

bobschriner
bobschriner

There is NOTHING substantive here about music. I don't know a soul who's tied up in most of the bands you mention. Sounds like you're just admitting to the guilty pleasures of your youth. The standard for content here might be something you'd need a shovel to be able to trip over. You suck as a writer and you have nothing to say. 

infoinfoinfo
infoinfoinfo

could we add Black/Flag to this list please.

BROHAM
BROHAM

PUT ON SOME CLEAN CLOTHES AND GROW THE FUCK UP. 

BROHAM
BROHAM

I HOPE I AM AS COOL AS YOU SOME DAY.

socialdgal
socialdgal

The most ignorant self fullfilling garbage I've read online in years well written

justinlpoole
justinlpoole

Maybe if you people were as passionate about finding new bands and supporting new artists as you are about defending rich old fucks who don't need you or give a shit about you then we'd grow some new artists to get tired of.  

sweetrobinb
sweetrobinb

@SlimJim This is the writer?  He even looks like he doesn't give a f**k so I know he knows what he's talking about.    You go, Writer!!

brandonlhart
brandonlhart

@SlimJim If this dude went to a punk show they wouldn't let is ass through the front door

smdrpepper
smdrpepper topcommenter

@SlimJim Everything comes into focus..I was right, he IS nothing more than a hipster.

Shreads04
Shreads04

@ladieswhokill Try telling Lars Frederiksen that

bcor29
bcor29

@voozun I'm 43 years old and like bands such as the Clash, Ramones, etc...but people definitely have the right to their opinions. I would think the author would want to put some thought into his opinions before putting it out there and making a fool of himself.

bubba_l_s
bubba_l_s

@bluesnoodler nothing to do with the rant on punk, but I like my parent's rotary phone more than touch tones, and I'd be willing to bet I'm younger than the author.

bluesnoodler
bluesnoodler

@bcor29 Or if you're going to say a band sucks, it would help if your own band wasn't absolute shit.

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