Summer Rocks Festival Proposal Scrutinized Over No-Compete Concerns

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ICM first approached real estate developer Steven Stogel about the proposal in the fourth quarter of 2013. (He's murky on dates and times, saying his secretary keeps those records. Maybe it was October, maybe it was November.) St. Louis Magazine's glowing 2006 list of the "50 people Who Run St. Louis" placed Stogel at No. 33, noting his advisement of the city on the redevelopment of the Gateway Mall where Summer Rocks would take place.

"ICM was interested in trying to do festivals that could bookend the summer," he said. "I got to know the ICM guys, and I was pleased to introduce them to people in St. Louis."
The Labor Day weekend festival would feature rock and pop acts while the Memorial Day weekend festival would feature country artists.

Stogel said that ICM believes there's an audience of 55 million people within a 300-mile radius that could bring hotel, restaurant, bar and festival revenue to downtown St. Louis.

The deal would pay the city $400,000 a year, adjusted for inflation, for use of city services. The city would also get a licensing fee and percentage of the gross, according to the proposed bill. Estimates don't include any sales-tax revenue that would also be good news for city coffers.

"Downtown St. Louis is not really active over those weekends unless the Cardinals are in town," Stogel said. "Tourist groups and folks at city hall, everybody seems to think that this will really work. There's every intention planned to work with all of the festivals. St. Louis is a very good music town. Some folks are concerned to the extent that there have been some legitimate concerns about the language. But St. Louis is a good music town. All of these festivals can add up to be more than the sum of its parts. I think this can be a great thing for St. Louis."

Other St. Louis festival organizers are staying mum thus far.

We reached out to LouFest officials, who responded with a prepared statement that didn't address the issue of potential no-compete clauses or the effect that it might have on the 2015 festival.

Folks from the Big Muddy Blues Festival also didn't respond to e-mails seeking comment.

We reached out to ICM officials, who did not respond to multiple requests for interviews.

John May's biggest concern is that the festival would be a bust and that the city would find itself locked into another long-term deal with out-of-town interests.

"It is a contract, so anything in the future can't be considered as an alternative," he said.




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36 comments
RiverfrontTimes
RiverfrontTimes

@InsideSTL Thanks again for sharing! We'll have more on the issue tomorrow. Today's hearing was crazy with info!

Don Lanier
Don Lanier

Why do they need a No Compete clause when they know its two of the biggest holidays

Eric Brands
Eric Brands

""Downtown St. Louis is not really active over those weekends unless the Cardinals are in town," Stogel said."" Maybe its because people are all gone and enjoying their Labor day Holiday time away from work..... This will just force even more people to have to work over the holidays.. (Yes, like me setting up these concerts) I really miss holidays. :-)

James Wright
James Wright

But look at the lineups at roo and Lola, worth the money to go see.

James Wright
James Wright

I want to see a mock lineup, I get a bad feeling this will be an "I heart radio lineup". If that's the case, noooo thanks.

Adam C Gabor
Adam C Gabor

Do it. Look at the income Bonnaroo, Lollapalooza, etc.. Brings In.

David Dwars
David Dwars

No to no compete. Otherwise they are welcome with open arms

Zac Nevill
Zac Nevill

Retarded question. It would be GREAT

Chris Totty
Chris Totty

Except there were 50,000 people that attended the Bluesweek Festival over the 3 days last Year. Too bad you were not down there Tony Parente. Check ur Facts First!!!!!

Jeffrey Nunn
Jeffrey Nunn

Why would you offer a contract like this to an out of town event promoter anyway? There are concert promoters, talent booking agencies, and event producers right here in St. Louis who are perfectly capable of coming together and handling a festival like this. Why ship that revenue out of town and squash free market competition at the same time? How is this in the best interests of the city's businesses or residents again?

beetkid
beetkid

@rftmusic yeah it would suck if Verizon couldn't book Hagar, Buffet, and DMB to play. Place would have to shut down.

Tony Bologna
Tony Bologna

Yeah and all 15 people that attend those festivals? HA!

Chris Totty
Chris Totty

Horrible for us. This City has and Always will be known for it's Blues Music. Hell our Hockey Team is Named after it for God's Sake. To Allow this will be shutting down our Blues Fests ( Big Muddy and Bluesweek) and our Blues Heritage.

Chris Gee
Chris Gee

Don't worry people, chesterfield will handle it.

Gabriel Marrero
Gabriel Marrero

Anything that brings people to St. Louis is good, but no compete? That's like telling people it will be a crappy show!

Mathias James
Mathias James

The no compete clause is bullocks. I don't like the idea of out of town promoters throwing their weight around in a city that works very hard to put itself on the map with locally produced festivals. I am interested to hear about the meeting so I will keep an open mind for now, but I am guessing that the festival will mostly include pop-up radio friendly bands with zero local influence. Like I said on another thread, I do hope I am wrong.

Dragana Totic
Dragana Totic

It would b awesome why do we have to trawel to other cities to c bands,lets bring them here and have fun right here in st Louis! YES,it would b good for our city!!!!!!

Shane Smith
Shane Smith

It would probably land in Chesterfield

Willie Ryan Salomon
Willie Ryan Salomon

Im not sure pointfest will be be effected seeing as how the event takes place in county limits.

Linda SansSouci
Linda SansSouci

As long as they get a guarantee (in writing) to also use local band talent, it probably would be worthwhile, since many popular bands have habitually omitted St. Louis from their tour schedules.

John Buehlhorn
John Buehlhorn

In a related article, it stated that the no compete clause did not affect already existing events such as Loufest.

Matt Berger
Matt Berger

The no compete clause only effects 2 entities really. Pointfest and LouFest. Pointfest hasn't been interesting in decades and I have a feeling that the artists playing LouFest would be similar to the proposed rock/pop festival.

Willie Ryan Salomon
Willie Ryan Salomon

I like the idea of knowing there will be big festys in the city limits, but in a city bursting with creative energy at the seams, a no compete clause, while it makes sense, goes against the creative spirit that is st Louis.

Tony Bologna
Tony Bologna

GO FOR IT! With pointfest being a complete waste the last few years we need a good rock festival to look foreword to.

Thee Lovingcup
Thee Lovingcup

How can you honestly ask the question before knowing anything about the festival? Seriously RFT.

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