Questions Remain About Summer Rocks Festivals; Vote Postponed

Categories: Live and Local

WHAT CONSTITUTES A "SIMILAR EVENT?"

We're talking Lollapalooza-type events: for-profit, multiple days, multiple stages, budgets of $8 million or more and sales of at least 25,000 tickets per day. That won't affect arenas and concert clubs, though:


See RFT Music's complete LouFest coverage

HOW WILL THESE NEW FESTIVALS AFFECT BIG MUDDY BLUES FESTIVAL, LOUFEST, FAIR St. LOUIS AND OTHER ALREADY-SCHEDULED EVENTS?

Theoretically, they won't:

But honestly, that remains to be seen. Bill language stipulates that Big Muddy, LouFest, etc. will be grandfathered in and permitted to stage their festivals as planned. However, Big Muddy traditionally is held Labor Day weekend, while LouFest this year will be held September 6-7, just a few days after Labor Day. There is concern that tourists and residents will not enough spending dollars to attend Summer Rocks plus the locally produced events. In addition, LouFest attracts nationally known artists for its two-day festival, and some worry about competition from Summer Rocks for high-caliber talent.

Moreover, there's some question as to how Summer Rocks will affect future opportunities:


WHO'S PAYING FOR THIS THING?

Los Angeles-based ICM Partners will pay all taxes and festival reservation fees, in addition to forking over $400,000 a year for city services to put on Summer Rocks.

Local real estate developer Steve Stogel is on board for a contribution:


WILL LOCAL MUSICIANS BE INVOLVED WITH SUMMER ROCKS?

ICM Partners assured attendees that local musicians will be welcome, but their specific involvement remains to be seen:


WHEN WILL THIS BE SORTED OUT?

There will be another meeting:

But even if the committee approves the bill next week, the process still will take time:


DID THIS BILL PUSH BLUESWEEK TO CHESTERFIELD?

Last week, Bluesweek festival promoter Mike Kociela told RFT Music and other news outlets that the move was due to financial woes and the inability to secure festival sponsorships. During yesterday's hearing, however, Kociela -- whose Taste of St. Louis also is moving to Chesterfield -- confirmed that Bill #328 sent him packing:

Continue to page three for more on the proposed festival.

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36 comments
Nikki Richards
Nikki Richards

St. Louis has great local music so what's the big deal?

Bill Long
Bill Long

Jeff Tweedy......every year .....and as Wilco, with Billy Brag, Uncle Tupelo...we'll make that bitch our 20%.

Ethan Hale
Ethan Hale

I hope its better than pointfest if it ends up happening.

Drew Walker
Drew Walker

Just an absolutely terrible idea. Are you seriously kidding me?

Savannah Leigh Bosler
Savannah Leigh Bosler

I'm all about featuring some local acts...In the long run it brings even more attention to our city from any out of town patrons. This is something that's been long overdue for our town!!! I can't wait to attend the first festival

Dan Jaboor
Dan Jaboor

I think the point of the out of town company wanting the non compete is because downtown will be freshly reinvented by the arch grounds project being completed. They want to lock that shit down while it's fresh.

Laura Hamm
Laura Hamm

The city has every right to drum up revenue, God knows our city needs it, especially if the other events choose to occur elsewhere. If you think this state "sucks," then do something about it. Get off your laurels & make a change. Y'all probably don't even vote.

Nick Danneberger
Nick Danneberger

Bluesweek leaving was inevitable. They stated they needed to start charging patrons and in order to do that and still be profitable finding another venue was the best option.

Colleen Autry
Colleen Autry

It is so frustrating that all people want to do is complain, especially when it's obvious they haven't read Bill 328. This is a positive thing for St. Louis, you want better bands, well- here is a company that can contract them ready to invest in downtown. Local musicians will be contracted as well. The non compete would have never affected Taste or Bluesweek, especially this year. They are using the bill as a smokescreen.

Neil Aimaro
Neil Aimaro

People need to face the reality that Missouri is just a shitty state.

Neil Aimaro
Neil Aimaro

Then start hosting rock shows at your house. Oh wait I forgot Missourians don't do that kind of stuff. Well wait maybe you can open up a small local club outside the city limits of St. Louis...Oh wait I forgot MO. is against that too. Oh well I guess there is nothing you can or anyone in this state can do....Right?

Neil Aimaro
Neil Aimaro

Everything that St. Louis has ever done locally as far as rock music has been concerned has been small and local hahahahaha

Joshua Steinmetz
Joshua Steinmetz

I can't fathom why this proposal moves Taste out of the city. Why not move the festival to Forest or Tower Grove Park if downtown is not available. I really think Summer Rocks is a scapegoat.

Courtney Ringle
Courtney Ringle

Keep big music festivals out in more rural areas.. The city should keep it small and local..

Carrie Finnesteada-Deadhead
Carrie Finnesteada-Deadhead

I am tired of second rate, "has been" bands being brought to St. Louis. It is rare that the great ones even consider us. Our city is not a bunch of dorks. We do not only listen to country music and we certainly do not want an ICP invasion. Local music must be represented. The variety of annual events like Big Muddy must stay intact.

Brian Villa
Brian Villa

Shut up... and start drafting a story about how many cars are gonna get broken into at the new festivals...

Kevin Grier
Kevin Grier

What would this do to Loufest? Or does this only apply to soldier memorial and live in the levy?

Marshall Gralnick
Marshall Gralnick

Someone will find a way to blow this 'opportunity' for STL and we'll have to wait years for it just like Ikea :)

Sharon Walker
Sharon Walker

I think a big thanks should go out to all those who are making downtown infrastructure better. I am not sure what all they are doing down there...but...it seems that they are really trying to make downtown more accessible and less confusing for locals and visitors.

Bill N Jenn
Bill N Jenn

There goes the neighborhood if it passes - this bill is only to promote larger out of state corporate interests while cutting off the interests of local promoters. What is with the non-compete clause? I am sure the mayor as well as other board members and aldermen will be lining their pockets with special interest money on this one.

Courtney Ringle
Courtney Ringle

I still think it sucks. These large music festivals should be held out in more rural places. that have the room for them. I just dont want it to be like the situation with "the Gathering" EFF THAT. we already have our music festivals. Live on the Levee, that silly never ending Pointfest, and the music stuff going on all summer long at Six Flags. not to mention Riverport, and concerts at savvis. whatelse do we need?

mjkeller568
mjkeller568

What do I think?  Since you asked, I'll tell you:

In today's society, where it is considered 'hip' to one-up each other in the "acts of stupidity" department, I firmly believe that this year, St. Louis is pulling ahead in that competition!

As a little segue, here's to hoping that the festivals and events that have been pulled to the county fall flat on their faces - and, since I like to do a job to the absolute best of my ability (I hate wasting time, energy and resources, only to do a mediocre job, if you know what I mean!), I hope they fall hard and they fall fast.

The best way to avoid being a goon is to not be one in the first place.

The next best thing we can learn from the situation is to let them fall into the pot hole.

A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way.
- Mark Twain

I firmly believe that the City is currently carrying more than one cat by the tail.  There ain't nuttin' like a bit of experience to let you know you're still alive, eh?  (The sad fact is that the City's cat-carrying scenario could be avoided altogether by not picking up the cat(s) in the first place - if you know what I mean.)

St. Louis, on the flip-side, take a selfie of your forearms and send it to me! I can't wait to see!

Couch Pig
Couch Pig

Im sure only the rich people will be able to afford to go...And they are much to refined for sex drugs and rock and roll...

Thee Lovingcup
Thee Lovingcup

Seriously, we know nothing about the proposed music festivals. How in the world can anyone have an opinion?

Julie Wilhelm
Julie Wilhelm

oh for goddess sake. Its something FUN...life is short. I mean, I wont go, Im not a "music festival" person, but geez. too much politics in this world. Seriously.

jay1963
jay1963

Money, dear. The city needs money. Did you actually think that this is about music?

BillyGoatMusic
BillyGoatMusic

It is something fun that comes at the expense of two other fun, locally produced  things we already had in the same location on the same dates. Why are we giving out of town companies priority when we already had two large and very well-attended/received events there? 

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